So they admit they want to censorship FB.
No, they admit that it may not be the best idea after all to allow people who use 'censorship' as as verb equal footing with serious journalists.
Facebook admits it must do more to stop the spread of misinformation
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Re: Facebook admits it must do more to stop the spread of misinformation
#52The timing of this announcement does not seem to help assuage fears that facebook was using its platform to push an agenda. It was this accusation that initially forced them to switch from human editors to an algorithm for trending news. I suspect that we as a country are going to have a conversation regarding the nature of privately held nearly public spaces on the internet and what their obligation to us is, if any.
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#53Good luck with that. Reddit's failed at it. Twitter's failed at it. It's almost always bundled with some sort of hate speech or political rhetoric that triggers swaths of people when they feel like they're being silenced. There probably is no right way to do it.
I tend to agree—I think that the more we get upset by these sorts of behaviors, the more it encourages them. "Don't feed the trolls" is really the only thing that works, and it's a pretty miserable experience to have nothing you can do about harassment.
Which isn't to say I disapprove of reddit, twitter et al removing hate speech; just that it's a very late and reactive solution to a problem that seems inherent in social media.
Really, all we can do is improve filtering, and facebook seems almost ideologically opposed to increasing user control over the content they see. So I don't see facebook being a pleasant place to visit in the near future.
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#54This article criticizes Facebook for firing the human editors that had been keeping things sane. However they were pushed to that by accusations of bias in the right-wing media. Accusations that looked likely to lead to a Congressional investigation. See, for example, http://thehill.com/policy/technology/279361-top-republican-d... . Now they are in a situation where they are damned if they do, damned if they don't. A…
There's a proper response to "accusations of bias" from alt-right white-nationalist thug media. Never mind whether the accusations "looked likely to lead to a Congressional investigation".
The response is to tell them to fuck off, and that the professional editors in your private company will continue to do their job however they see fit.
Period, paragraph.
Re: Facebook admits it must do more to stop the spread of misinformation
#55If it's such a problem why not just disable the Newsfeed?
No one needs to get their news from Facebook
Re: Facebook admits it must do more to stop the spread of misinformation
#56This article criticizes Facebook for firing the human editors that had been keeping things sane. However they were pushed to that by accusations of bias in the right-wing media. Accusations that looked likely to lead to a Congressional investigation. See, for example, http://thehill.com/policy/technology/279361-top-republican-d... . Now they are in a situation where they are damned if they do, damned if they don't. A…
I think the solution to "damned if you do, damned if you don't" here is to just remove the stupid news sidebar.
No. The solution is to continue to provide news, to curate it, to shut down professional liars, and to tell the critics that if they don't like it, they are free to encourage their followers to use other social media.
Re: Facebook admits it must do more to stop the spread of misinformation
#57The moderation of Facebook is outsourced to a select group of organizations, not unlike Twitter with their Trust and Safety Council. https://about.twitter.com/safety/council https://blog.twitter.com/2016/announcing-the-twitter-trust-s... Unsurprisingly, Twitter's Safety Council members are predominantly left-leaning with ties to the (now defunct) Clinton campaign. I would presume there are plenty of seats to be fille…
Isn't twitter moderation openly mocked for being, well, hardly functional at all? It's been a bastion of bigotry for the past year. It's Trump's main platform. If they're trying to suppress the right, they're doing a TERRIBLE job.
Twitter moderation is slow and ineffective, but still partisan - they're jut not very good at it.
Re: Facebook admits it must do more to stop the spread of misinformation
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, trying to solve this problem by creating a definition of "misinformation" sufficiently precise to act on it for all possible articles, then trying to remove it somehow is probably an AI-complete problem. If it's not AI-complete it's probably just plain an ill-formed question. That's before we ask questions about the biases that get embedded into the misinformation detector. This can't be fixed at Facebook scales…
Yes. We're talking about a platform that at it's best is birthday wishes, vacation and cat pictures. It's running on a paid content model, with advertisers selling through viral videos and click-bait. It's good not to expect too much out of it.
We're actually not; that's simply false. No, Facebook is not "at it's best" [sic] when it sticks to birthday wishes and cat pictures.
It's actually at its best when it is truly social, in all senses of the word. When it facilitates real communication on real issues across a broad spectrum of people. When it spreads information, not misinformation.
Re: Facebook admits it must do more to stop the spread of misinformation
#59Except it isn't just the spread of misinformation. Even more important (IMHO) is the insulating effect of showing people only like-minded opinions, effectively trapping everyone in a bubble. I can't think of any way Facebook can solve this problem without drastically decreasing their reliance on ad revenue. What are they going to do, force people to view opinions they disagree with?
> showing people only like-minded opinions
Can't wait until they do the opposite in case of free speech then get sued by people who can't deal with their emotions and accept them. Some of them are already out protesting (and some "protesting" with destroying property[1]).
But hey I guess helicopter parenting and after that safe-space culture they grew in can only get you so far.
Re: Facebook admits it must do more to stop the spread of misinformation
#60Just stop using aggregators. Pay for real news sources that hire actual investigative journalists.
I do. Now how do we convince everyone else?