Not just the left and right's echo-chambers, but those who attempt to actually listen to reality got it wrong, too: FiveThirtyEight for example has been using proven, reality-based statistics for a while and should have predicted this result. (As it was, Silver was lambasted for being too generous on Trump's chances.) At issue in this election is apparently a new idea: people who hold positions that are being publica…
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#32The biggest problem with our country isn't the people who voted for Trump, it's the people who are surprised that he won. For what it's worth, here is an email conversation about this that I submitted to HN before the election:
https://www.fwdeveryone.com/t/e1rtmBSJR16mkcCRlqmWwQ/lifehac...
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#33Why is this hard for people to get. "I can't believe it," is a figure of speech not a statement of fact.
Most of us are shocked that this could happen not that it did happen.
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#35I don't use Facebook, but no one I know was surprised by the outcome.
Bill Clinton was disbarred, impeached, and he sexually exploited young female interns in the White house and was also accused of sexual crimes by many women. Hillary Clinton defended him in all of these things.
The Clinton Foundation is a front (masquerading as a charity) for political favors and payments. The Clintons are political/criminal cronies enriching themselves while impoverishing others.
While they claim that average Americans are too 'uneducated' and 'low information' (i.e. stupid) to understand these sophisticated political topics, we all see right through it.
Enough is enough. Follow the same rules and laws that we all have to and treat us fairly and we'll vote for you. Abuse us like this and we won't. It's that simple.
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#36We're all definitely in an echo chamber. Hacker News is an echo chamber. So is Reddit, FB, Twitter, etc.
This is what happens when, as an industry, we move towards "personalization". All of our "personalized" feeds allow businesses to increase their ad revenue, but it siphons us away from the rest of the world. 30 years ago, we were beholden to the large media outlets, which is also bad, but I believe we've overcorrected. All of our apps are just too personalized and they don't work hard enough to tell us what we should know, as opposed to what we want to know.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or maybe - just maybe - they report the news without opinion. Facebook injects opinion into everything by it's very nature. Maybe that's not a good thing.
Buahahahahaha, media outlets report news WITHOUT opinion? Welcome to Earth, outsider.
Besides the obvious empirical weight of your condescending dismissal I have yet to see any evidence that states it is impossible to report the news without an opinion. In fact, if you open the NYT you will find it divided into sections on opinion and factual news.
Give me some evidence of main stream media reporting opinion with news. Give me a non-opinion piece newspaper article that has opinion.
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#38The article links to the WSJ "Blue feed, red feed" page, which is very interesting. It shows two different Facebook feeds side-by-side for various topics and makes it clear just how much bias (in either direction) is in the feed. In general I think the Internet has reduced the "filter bubble", but these Facebook feeds, wow, that's a lot more filtering than I would have expected.
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#39"If you liked that, you'll love this." - Adam Curtis on his new documentary Hypernormalisation. I really recommend it. You can also read this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/2011/03/goodies_and_ba...
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#40No, it just succeeded wildly. A lot of pundits and media types now need to go back and re-examine their thinking, because almost all of them were wrong about everything. Stop listening to them, because they are naive people who think themselves worldly but they don't understand the present moment nor the future. They all need to go.
Nicholas Nassim Taleb's Twitter and Medium are excellent reads these days.