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Re: The Facebook bubble just popped

#21
There was an assumption that Bernie voters would go to Clinton, but instead some of them didn't vote or went third party.

In swing states, 1% more votes could have made the difference. Florida for instance was very close.

In addition, the democratic party acted in a very biased way against Bernie. Superdelegates also didn't care about what candidate was more popular in each state.

Re: The Facebook bubble just popped

#22

Yeah because, all the other news outlets predicted a trump win... this is a shit piece article... Show me one outlet that gave Mr. Trump > 50% chance of winning (Fox doesn't count as news). If anything this is more the fault of bad pollsters, and people not realizing that 4 million Bernie or Bust voters were real and not just spouting empty promises. I was one of those. I wrote in Bernie, and I'd rather have Trump an…

"Show me one outlet that gave Mr. Trump > 50% chance of winning (Fox doesn't count as news)."

I actually don't recall Fox predicting it either.

But isn't it kind of weird that you both supposed they were the only ones who might have gotten it correct, but also that they were not "real news"? Didn't "real news" just let you down hardcore?

It doesn't do any good to say "The deviation of reporting from reality means I have to re-examine my views" if you secretly include the caveat "as long as none of my views have to change".

That said, I've got no particular reason to give you that Fox should be given any more credit than any other major news source. But I'd submit that isn't because you should give Fox more credit, but because you should adjust your view of the others to match your current view of Fox. There isn't that huge a difference between Fox and, say, CNN. But there's a lot more people who will mouth agreement with that sentence, but then don't follow through with their actions. CNN is trash, and it's more dangerous for those who are generally inclined to agree with them than those who aren't. And so on for all or at least almost all of the other "real news sources". You need to follow through, stop watching, stop trusting things they say, and really stop trusting things they say that make you feel good.

(BTW, as for "what's my suggestion" then, at the moment I don't have a place I can point at and say "If they say it, I trust it.")

Re: The Facebook bubble just popped

#23
Stop writing narratives out of this.

Many of us who are incredulous about this election not because a Republican won but because Donald Trump won.

We're shocked that you can mock a war hero, a person with a disability, a sexual assault victim in the public sphere and still get elected.

It's not our politics that are shocked it's our sensibilities.

Edit: sorry about the original swear.

Re: The Facebook bubble just popped

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As opposed to what? Some other major media outlet, pushing their own agenda on previous elections? Give me a break.

Or maybe - just maybe - they report the news without opinion. Facebook injects opinion into everything by it's very nature. Maybe that's not a good thing.

Buahahahahaha, media outlets report news WITHOUT opinion? Welcome to Earth, outsider.

Re: The Facebook bubble just popped

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> Facebook didn’t just reflect your views back to you Hardly. I'd say it accurately represented the view distribution of my social group, which I infrequently agree with. > But beyond that, it turns a blind eye to the nature of the content within its walls. Is this article claiming that FB should censor more ? It's also wrong; I know of several Facebook pages that have been unpublished for being politically unsavory…

Completely agree this was a ridiculous article, but it's also what I'd expect from TC.

Re: The Facebook bubble just popped

#26

What an absurd article. Facebook is worldwide but somehow the US only elections popped it's bubble? Not to mention this was a 50/50 opinion split.. not exactly earth shattering.

I think the radically unexpected outcome of the elections had a lot to do with it, which in this case happened to occur in the US.

Re: The Facebook bubble just popped

#29

Not just the left and right's echo-chambers, but those who attempt to actually listen to reality got it wrong, too: FiveThirtyEight for example has been using proven, reality-based statistics for a while and should have predicted this result. (As it was, Silver was lambasted for being too generous on Trump's chances.) At issue in this election is apparently a new idea: people who hold positions that are being publica…

Technically, they did predict it: 538 had 35% chance of Trump winning and emphasized the uncertainty factor, while other outlets had Clinton's chances as high as 99%.

Re: The Facebook bubble just popped

#30

Not just the left and right's echo-chambers, but those who attempt to actually listen to reality got it wrong, too: FiveThirtyEight for example has been using proven, reality-based statistics for a while and should have predicted this result. (As it was, Silver was lambasted for being too generous on Trump's chances.) At issue in this election is apparently a new idea: people who hold positions that are being publica…

Donald Trump barely won. They regularly gave him a %25+ chance of winning and regularly pointed out that that was a good chance.
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