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Seven years of Go

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Re: Seven years of Go

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Post by zigzigzag »

fizzbatter wrote: post #8

So, i was a Go developer for ~4 years, then for the last 4 months or so i've been learning and using Rust. The pure joy of some things with Rust was astounding. Now, i joined a new job and they're in need of a new language for some backend tasks - the choice was mine. Rust or Go? The backend tasks were heavy API servers - nothing amazing, we don't do groundbreaking work. Python was their existing language, but they w…

Out of curiousity, why were the only choices Go or Rust? The type of thing you describe sounds ideal for Scala, Java, Kotlin, C# ...

Re: Seven years of Go

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Post by barrystaes »

These big funny logos, illustrations, and memes appearing in todays technology websites & videos really dont help for office environments. :( Colleagues should not visit websites littered with memes and cute drawings, but i do.

Re: Seven years of Go

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Post by fizzbatter »

zigzigzag wrote: post #11
fizzbatter wrote: post #8

So, i was a Go developer for ~4 years, then for the last 4 months or so i've been learning and using Rust. The pure joy of some things with Rust was astounding. Now, i joined a new job and they're in need of a new language for some backend tasks - the choice was mine. Rust or Go? The backend tasks were heavy API servers - nothing amazing, we don't do groundbreaking work. Python was their existing language, but they w…

Out of curiousity, why were the only choices Go or Rust? The type of thing you describe sounds ideal for Scala, Java, Kotlin, C# ...

I had to pick something i was familiar with too. We need this on a shorter timeframe (when is that not true? haha), and evaluating a language is hard.

As it is, this was a partial reason against Rust for me. After my time learning Rust, i'm still not 100% confident in my ability on it. My lack of experience and thusly productivity-hit is a real factor i had to calculate. Moreso with the rest of the team.

With Scala/etc i would be learning it new myself, and it was a gamble i wasn't going to take. Especially because our application is not intensive to specific problems that some languages excel in (concurrency, etc).

I'm sticking my neck out choosing a language, so i wanted to be quite sure i make the right choice for us. Well, as best i can - i am new in this shop after all.. i hope i made the right one :)

Re: Seven years of Go

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Post by Klathmon »

72deluxe wrote: post #4
be_erik wrote: post #3

Go isn't a perfect language, but it strikes the right balance for me between productivity and safety. There are few other languages right now with the same ease of deployment, good tooling, excellent standard lib, and raw performance. Here's to another seven years.

Out of interest, can you point me to any GUI bindings or native Go GUI toolkits etc.? I would like to take a look, as I am normally writing native C++ GUI desktop apps. EDIT: Thanks for all the info everyone. I hope my responses don't appear argumentative - I am genuinely curious.

I'm not sure if this would work for you, but using something like Electron and having your go program output HTML/JS/CSS as your UI works really well with go (or have your go program output JSON or something to communicate with the front end)

If you throw something like react on there, you'll have a pretty simple functional UI, but if you don't want that there's nothing wrong with HTML/CSS and as little JS as you can get away with.

Re: Seven years of Go

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Post by zalmoxes »

kawsper wrote: post #5

Is there a recommendable (and somewhat recent) book on how to get started with Go?

If you're serious about learning Go and get stuck with your learning project, or with any of the resources already mentioned, don't hesitate to join the Go Slack. We have a #golang-newbies channel where you can ask all your beginner questions, and other channels like `#reviews` where you can ask for code review.

https://invite.slack.golangbridge.org/

Re: Seven years of Go

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Post by Thaxll »

fizzbatter wrote: post #8

So, i was a Go developer for ~4 years, then for the last 4 months or so i've been learning and using Rust. The pure joy of some things with Rust was astounding. Now, i joined a new job and they're in need of a new language for some backend tasks - the choice was mine. Rust or Go? The backend tasks were heavy API servers - nothing amazing, we don't do groundbreaking work. Python was their existing language, but they w…

Choosing Rust in a shop where no one knows Rust is indeed a big mistake where in Go it's pretty easy to pick up the language quickly.

Re: Seven years of Go

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Post by ohstopitu »

I've always gotten into go on a high level and would love to delve in deeper. Coming from a java/js background, my pointers are a bit rusty (and I try to avoid them as much as possible). Would it be possible to use go without the use of pointers at all?

Re: Seven years of Go

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Post by greendragon »

fizzbatter wrote: post #8

So, i was a Go developer for ~4 years, then for the last 4 months or so i've been learning and using Rust. The pure joy of some things with Rust was astounding. Now, i joined a new job and they're in need of a new language for some backend tasks - the choice was mine. Rust or Go? The backend tasks were heavy API servers - nothing amazing, we don't do groundbreaking work. Python was their existing language, but they w…

Curious what they weren't so happy about with Python? Was it purely performance? If so, did they consider PyPy, or at least profile what the slowest bits are so they can evaluate whether to throw everything out or just rewrite the slow bits? Was it the language itself? Not everyone likes dynamic languages, though it's odd they started with it. Did you consider Node at all?

Re: Seven years of Go

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Post by dilap »

72deluxe wrote: post #4
be_erik wrote: post #3

Go isn't a perfect language, but it strikes the right balance for me between productivity and safety. There are few other languages right now with the same ease of deployment, good tooling, excellent standard lib, and raw performance. Here's to another seven years.

Out of interest, can you point me to any GUI bindings or native Go GUI toolkits etc.? I would like to take a look, as I am normally writing native C++ GUI desktop apps. EDIT: Thanks for all the info everyone. I hope my responses don't appear argumentative - I am genuinely curious.

I love Go and think it could be good in this area, but so far as I know no one is using it for any serious GUI work (yet?).

Re: Seven years of Go

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Post by bawigga »

ohstopitu wrote: post #17

I've always gotten into go on a high level and would love to delve in deeper. Coming from a java/js background, my pointers are a bit rusty (and I try to avoid them as much as possible). Would it be possible to use go without the use of pointers at all?

You'll most likely find that you need them. Look at it as an opportunity to learn a new programming technique.
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