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Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by msd81257 »

meritt wrote: post #521

Today, Trump appointed Myron Ebell (a massive climate change denier) to head up the EPA. We're so utterly and completely fucked.

>Trump and Myron talking >Trump: "Hey Myron, thoughts on climate change?" >Myron: "Oh it's nothing, the polar bears are just brown and cities are going underwater, but your ozone-damaging hairspray won't escape your dressing room (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU2p6YakNJg) while you grope a supermodel"

Please Elon Musk, if you're reading this, make Tesla and SolarCity come faster so we can still experience snow no matter who runs this country

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Post by krige »

tw04 wrote: post #619
samfisher83 wrote: post #603

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The president doesn't make the tax plan congress does, but given he has a republican congress he can get a lot of those things passed.

That's the point, he'll get the things passed that are going to hurt the country, and the only things that are actually GOOD ideas will sit on the floor because congress is never going to vote to limit its own power.

So four more years of Obama?

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Post by Broken_Hippo »

xenadu02 wrote: post #586

Just so everyone is aware: selling insurance across state lines is code for "gut all insurance regulations". Why did most credit card banks relocate their paper headquarters to SD? Because SD had no usury laws and federal law said laws of your headquarters was all that mattered. It gutted all state regulation of credit cards in one fell swoop. This is the same approach DJT and the Republicans want to take for health…

That will be awful. I've generally been fine with insurance companies selling in multiple states, but I always picture it with regulation - because of such a situation.

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Post by coldnebo »

redler wrote: post #834
adamgravitis wrote: post #786

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Reducing the number, length and complexity of regulation is a valid goal, and that hasn't changed in thousands of years: "The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." - Tacitus

The actual Tacitus quote doesn't really serve your argument. It's "The more corrupt the government, the more numerous the laws." -- you've got it backwards. Complexity is one thing (although it should be obvious that complex domains often require complex descriptions). But number is arbitrary. Suppose there exists a set of three distinct regulations regarding ways to safely manufacture a drug, and a dangerous new pro…

Because math. <3

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Post by azernik »

qaq wrote: post #111
hiou wrote: post #41

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I have a feeling you were not alive for the "Contract with America". On a side note this is one of the most naive things I have ever seen. I was a bit agnostic before, but wow this is literally handing Russia and China the keys to the global economy while thinking he is doing the opposite. Yikes, I really did not realize he was this under qualified.

Hmm totally not being a Trump supporter how does this empower China exactly? Russia's economy is the size of NYC so that is even stranger point especially given Trumps position on " I will lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars’ worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal"

The TPP had very specific political goals - it created a common market for the US, a couple of Latin American countries, and most of the major East Asian and South Pacific economies... but NOT China. The idea being to both bind American allies in Asia more closely to it, and to ensure that if/when China wanted expanded trade with TPP members it would have to deal with rules that had originally been set by the US and its allies.

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Post by ngcazz »

derekdahmer wrote: post #501
toomuchtodo wrote: post #281

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Put out of work coal miners on social security early at their full benefit and fund it with a carbon tax. This doesn't even need to be a carbon tax; simply a transfer from the general fund. The average coal miner salary is ~$22/hr, or ~$42k/year. 174,000 coal workers in the US @ $31,668k/year (the max SS benefit permitted) = $5.5 billion/year. This is not expensive, nor in perpetuity, only the years from now until th…

This attitude is why democrats have so much trouble understanding why republicans have so much support from working class voters. People don't want to go on welfare, they want a job. It's about identity. Free money can keep you fed but it can't give you a sense of pride and self worth.

Subsidize tourism and encourage people from rural populations to be in contact with people from metropolitan areas.

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Post by walshemj »

knowaveragejoe wrote: post #43

Some of this sounds great - term limits on congress, a measure to reduce the revolving door effect of government officials going into lobbying. Some of it sounds ridiculous - for every new federal regulation, 2 existing regulations must be eliminated. How is that considered feasible by any rational person? It might sound great if you don't think too hard about it. The scariest things for me are the backing out of cli…

You can see he has never held elected office

Its going to require an amendment to the constitution (which takes decades) and from experience a newbie MP Congress man etc will need one entire cycle to get to grips with the system and become effective.

Having inexperienced elected representatives just gives more power to the executive - which is not what I think Trump wanted.

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Post by loceng »

ianai wrote: post #626
loceng wrote: post #580

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It could result in jobs for locals - however then investment needs to be made to support the manufacturing, educating skilled workers, etc.

In the sense that we would be doing to ourselves what we did to Cuba.

Suppose you're right, however the U.S. is in a much different situation than Cuba resource wise - education, networks, investment capital, etc.

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Post by geofft »

psyc wrote: post #367
Alupis wrote: post #141

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> I'd actually be surprised if there were many of those. There are entire books written filled with silly, outdated, or absurd laws and regulations (both federal and state). Here's just a taste[1]: > 18 USC §1382 & 32 CFR §636.28(g)(iv) make it a federal crime to ride a moped into Fort Stewart without wearing long trousers. > 16 USC §551 & 36 CFR §261.16(c) make it a crime to wash a fish at a faucet if it's not a fis…

I'm just shaking my head at all the Hacker News armchair law professors who fervently believe each and every one of these is critical to the functioning of civilized society. And that's why we have so much red tape. Apparently there's a type of person who can't abide not having all possible minutia of life legislated.

Heh. I'd have thought the armchair law professors are the ones claiming that large portions of US law are mistakes, not the ones saying that things are the way they are for good reason.

Also, I don't think anyone is saying that they're critical to the functioning of civilized society, just that they're not ridiculous and outdated, and that being truthful about the topic of discussion is important in a discussion. We can, and should, debate whether they're needed! But we first need to understand what arguments there are in favor of keeping them.

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