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Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by inostia »

grzm wrote: post #555
inostia wrote: post #549

How did I not see this before the election (even if it came out 102316 as evidenced in the file name)? Why did NYT/Guardian/all of the news sites that I regularly visit not report this? This is a clear policy proposal, contrary to everything I had read that said he had no clear plan.

I agree that there was noise regarding Trump not having a clear plan. That said, - Did you check out either candidate's websites? - Were you aware of Hillary's equivalent?[0] Was this reported in the news sites you frequent? [0]: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/ I'm asking the questions honestly. I did know of Trump's contract (though I don't remember how I came across it), and didn't look at the Clinton campai…

I did look at both candidate's websites. Though a link to this .pdf was not easy to find. This is exactly the sort of thing that I expect the media to link me to, rather than an (after-the-fact) HN post.

I read news websites every single day and never saw anything close to the clarity of his positions presented here.

Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by bduerst »

ben174 wrote: post #177
cesarbs wrote: post #95

A lot of what's in there seems pretty reasonable, but: 1) The whole border wall thing is just ridiculous. I thought he had given up on that. Why would Mexico have to pay for that? If the US wants to build a wall, fine, build it and pay for it. It doesn't make sense to demand that Mexico pay for it. It's like building a wall on your property and demanding your neighbors pay for it. 2) The FDA thing is scary. Regulatio…

You can find more detail on how he plans to make Mexico pay for the wall here: https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf Specifically, he will threaten to disallow wire transfer of money from US to Mexico by non-citizens. Since that is a revenue source they greatly depend on, he suggests they'd rather fund the building of the wall. If they agree to fund the wall, then the ban on transfers will go away.

How do you know if a wire transfer is from a U.S. Citizen?

Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by bduerst »

mrep wrote: post #537
pavlov wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, if your country happens to be one of those that refuse to accept one-sided deportations from USA, you won't get a visa anymore: "... Cancel visas to foreign countries that won’t take them back."

Excuse my ignorance, but why is that a bad thing? From what I remember, visa holders staying longer than they are allotted is the number 1 source of illegal immigration.

Because only the tiniest fraction of a percent of tourists overstay visas, and tourism is $1.5 trillion industry in the U.S.

Denying tourists from entire countries will result in a loss of jobs. You don't cut of your arm because of a papercut.

Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by grzm »

inostia wrote: post #641
grzm wrote: post #555

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that there was noise regarding Trump not having a clear plan. That said, - Did you check out either candidate's websites? - Were you aware of Hillary's equivalent?[0] Was this reported in the news sites you frequent? [0]: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/ I'm asking the questions honestly. I did know of Trump's contract (though I don't remember how I came across it), and didn't look at the Clinton campai…

I did look at both candidate's websites. Though a link to this .pdf was not easy to find. This is exactly the sort of thing that I expect the media to link me to, rather than an (after-the-fact) HN post. I read news websites every single day and never saw anything close to the clarity of his positions presented here.

To be fair, is it the media's responsibility to make sure an important policy document is easy to find? What does it say about the Trump campaign that the document was hard to find on their own campaign website?

Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by [deleted] »

bmm6o wrote: post #604
novalis78 wrote: post #490

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is fantastic. That's exactly how it should be. Otherwise over decades you end up with regulations that stifle all forms of entrepreneurship and creativity.

Next time you write a line of code, you have to delete two others.

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Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by downandout »

ben174 wrote: post #177
cesarbs wrote: post #95

A lot of what's in there seems pretty reasonable, but: 1) The whole border wall thing is just ridiculous. I thought he had given up on that. Why would Mexico have to pay for that? If the US wants to build a wall, fine, build it and pay for it. It doesn't make sense to demand that Mexico pay for it. It's like building a wall on your property and demanding your neighbors pay for it. 2) The FDA thing is scary. Regulatio…

You can find more detail on how he plans to make Mexico pay for the wall here: https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf Specifically, he will threaten to disallow wire transfer of money from US to Mexico by non-citizens. Since that is a revenue source they greatly depend on, he suggests they'd rather fund the building of the wall. If they agree to fund the wall, then the ban on transfers will go away.

Sounds like we should all be shorting Western Union stock. If he actually implements these controls, they will be the hardest hit.

Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by forgingahead »

So, this is NOT new, it's been around for a while (see the footer of the document). Important to recognize that this may not be his actual first 100 day plan now he has actually won.

The bigger problem is that since the Democrats and media took the "Literally Hitler" approach, no policies got discussed even though they were available in plain sight. Now whether you like them or not, he's won, and people had no opportunity to understand the policy differences between the candidates.

Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by hyperion2010 »

theptip wrote: post #462

> FIRST, propose a constitutional amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress. I've debated this approach with friends in the past. From a game-theory perspective, does this promote or hinder political corruption? I'm inclined to believe that term limits would actually encourage corruption. 1) If senators have to find a job after 8 years, surely that encourages the revolving door between industry and g…

The thing I worry about more here (amazingly) is the answer to the question "If representatives don't have enough experience to write new laws then who will write them?"

Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by inostia »

grzm wrote: post #644
inostia wrote: post #641

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did look at both candidate's websites. Though a link to this .pdf was not easy to find. This is exactly the sort of thing that I expect the media to link me to, rather than an (after-the-fact) HN post. I read news websites every single day and never saw anything close to the clarity of his positions presented here.

To be fair, is it the media's responsibility to make sure an important policy document is easy to find? What does it say about the Trump campaign that the document was hard to find on their own campaign website?

That's fair. But it does seem like there's some suppression here. I always thought the "mainstream media bias" thing was just a soundbite for conservatives. But tarrifs for companies wanting to move factories overseas? Term limits for Congress people? Those are legitimate proposals that I never heard about (except in the debates).

I don't have time to look for documents on candidates websites. I rely on (and pay) the media to present information because I'm busy. This should have been reported fairly, though maybe that bias is actually true.

Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

slicktux wrote: post #613
jdc0589 wrote: post #122

> FIFTH, I will lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars’ worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal This is what I have the biggest problem with. The ONLY WAY we are going to continue making progress towards widespread clean renewable energy is if it is financially beneficial for corporations to continue investing in R&D. Sure, there are s…

Well, that is not to say that states cannot implement their own environmental laws, take for example California. . .the fact that Trump 'will' lift "$50 trillion dollars’ worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal. . ." does not mean that the states cannot take action; I know it is perceived as for the better if the environmental laws are uniformed throughout the…

The problem is if West Virginia burns coal that causes air pollution and sea level rise in New York, New York can't pass a law against burning coal in West Virginia. Federal laws are needed when a state is externalizing costs and internalizing profits.
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