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Trump, our next president, promised to block AT&T/Time Warner merger

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Re: Trump, our next president, promised to block AT&T/Time Warner merger

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Post by threeseed »

feelix wrote: post #12
at-fates-hands wrote: post #7

I stopped reading Ars Technica when they gave Trump an F on technology issues and Clinton an overall B+, including a B- on "privacy and security". I mean, how much more partisan can you get than that? The woman was under investigation for leaking classified emails and using an unprotected email server for fucks sake. When a media outlet does something like that, I just can't take anything else they report on seriousl…

Anything not-pro-clinton gets downvoted without explanation on any social media platform I've seen, including HN (which is supposed to be less biased, more objective, and superior to the other networks).

Well if you look at the behaviour and intellectual rigour amongst some Trump supporters i.e. http://reddit.com/r/the_donald then it's hard not to see why it would not be a good fit for HN. And many of the conspiracy theories that ended up on Fox News originated there so it's not without basis that this sub is representative of a significant number of Trump supporters.

Personally I have not noticed any particular bias here except for at backing up assertions with some facts.

Re: Trump, our next president, promised to block AT&T/Time Warner merger

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Post by giarc »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #4

> But Trump's promise to block the merger won't necessarily be fulfilled. Cop-out in the subtitle followed by thirty paragraphs of navel gazing.

My wife and I were discussing issues like this tonight. We spoke about the fact that when most politicians make promises, you can point to specific votes or speeches during non campaign times to say "Yes, it seems like he/she is really against this." With Trump though, we have no comparison, he's never served any office before. The only thing we have is campaign promises and they mean so little. So journalists probably have a hard time deciding whether something he said is true or not.

Re: Trump, our next president, promised to block AT&T/Time Warner merger

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Post by fisherjeff »

fny wrote: post #47
r00fus wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Concur wholeheartedly. Just not very optimistic. But who knows?

If he doesn't keep his word we'll have ammo to oust him in 4 years, perhaps impeach him sooner, perhaps revise congress in 2 years. Otherwise, we get the change we want.

I have serious doubts. I think the one thing that this election has proven is that fact-checking is dead. PolitiFact rated 70% of Trump's reviewed statements as at least "mostly false" and there were basically zero consequences.

The next election cycle is going to be brutal.

Re: Trump, our next president, promised to block AT&T/Time Warner merger

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Post by pinkrooftop »

r00fus wrote: post #6
beedogs wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Either that, or he'll just break his promise and let it go through.

Bingo. Promises, for Trump, are fulfilled upon announcement, and then forgotten. The examples are legion.

So you're saying he's like every politician that has ever made a promise

Re: Trump, our next president, promised to block AT&T/Time Warner merger

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Post by rjeli »

fisherjeff wrote: post #53
fny wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If he doesn't keep his word we'll have ammo to oust him in 4 years, perhaps impeach him sooner, perhaps revise congress in 2 years. Otherwise, we get the change we want.

I have serious doubts. I think the one thing that this election has proven is that fact-checking is dead. PolitiFact rated 70% of Trump's reviewed statements as at least "mostly false" and there were basically zero consequences. The next election cycle is going to be brutal.

Politifact is blatantly biased. Bernie and Trump made the same claim about african american youth unemployment, and they rated Trump a liar and Bernie honest [0][1].

[0]: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jul/... [1]: http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2016/jun/20/do...

Re: Trump, our next president, promised to block AT&T/Time Warner merger

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Post by LargeCompanies »

r00fus wrote: post #6
beedogs wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Either that, or he'll just break his promise and let it go through.

Bingo. Promises, for Trump, are fulfilled upon announcement, and then forgotten. The examples are legion.

Just like every politician before him and after.

Re: Trump, our next president, promised to block AT&T/Time Warner merger

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Post by burkaman »

spoiledtechie wrote: post #48
r00fus wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bingo. Promises, for Trump, are fulfilled upon announcement, and then forgotten. The examples are legion.

Bull. There aren't examples and for you to say hat, speaks falsely to honesty and openness. Check your lies at the door.

A few forgotten promises from the campaign trail:

"I will release my tax returns when Obama releases his birth certificate." - http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2011/04/donald-trump-intervi...

"If I run for office I will absolutely release my tax returns." - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg-5KEt1Abg

"Melania will hold a press conference on questions about her immigration." - https://twitter.com/JDiamond1/status/763158326653882368

"I will pay the legal fees of the man who punched a black guy at my rally." - http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-march-13-20...

"I will self fund my campaign." and other related promises - http://www.npr.org/2016/07/14/485699964/every-position-donal...

I'm not very familiar with his life before the campaign, but I'm sure there are more examples.

Re: Trump, our next president, promised to block AT&T/Time Warner merger

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Post by [deleted] »

rjeli wrote: post #55
fisherjeff wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have serious doubts. I think the one thing that this election has proven is that fact-checking is dead. PolitiFact rated 70% of Trump's reviewed statements as at least "mostly false" and there were basically zero consequences. The next election cycle is going to be brutal.

Politifact is blatantly biased. Bernie and Trump made the same claim about african american youth unemployment, and they rated Trump a liar and Bernie honest [0][1]. [0]: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jul/... [1]: http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2016/jun/20/do...

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Re: Trump, our next president, promised to block AT&T/Time Warner merger

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Post by [deleted] »

rjeli wrote: post #55
fisherjeff wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have serious doubts. I think the one thing that this election has proven is that fact-checking is dead. PolitiFact rated 70% of Trump's reviewed statements as at least "mostly false" and there were basically zero consequences. The next election cycle is going to be brutal.

Politifact is blatantly biased. Bernie and Trump made the same claim about african american youth unemployment, and they rated Trump a liar and Bernie honest [0][1]. [0]: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jul/... [1]: http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2016/jun/20/do...

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Re: Trump, our next president, promised to block AT&T/Time Warner merger

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Post by [deleted] »

fisherjeff wrote: post #53
fny wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If he doesn't keep his word we'll have ammo to oust him in 4 years, perhaps impeach him sooner, perhaps revise congress in 2 years. Otherwise, we get the change we want.

I have serious doubts. I think the one thing that this election has proven is that fact-checking is dead. PolitiFact rated 70% of Trump's reviewed statements as at least "mostly false" and there were basically zero consequences. The next election cycle is going to be brutal.

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