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Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by Nadya »

cabinguy wrote: post #463
Nadya wrote: post #280

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Absolutely terrible example. The TV show created many jobs (producers, editors, filmers, the 'assistant' (spokesperson...) position being fought for) and those who were "fired" (never really hired to begin with, were they?) failed to meet the job requirement. Which was to be the best business-person. A meritocracy, as things should be, rather than being based on race/gender/filling some sort of diversity quota. In re…

He didn't create or own the show. He was an employee.

The argument put forward still doesn't work, especially with that being the case, but thank you for the knowledge.

Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by oldmanjay »

berdario wrote: post #423
oldmanjay wrote: post #324

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Here's Nate Silver today trying to explain trump: > America hasn’t put its demons — including racism, anti-Semitism and misogyny — behind it. White people still make up the vast majority of the electorate, particularly when considering their share of the Electoral College, and their votes usually determine the winner. By intentionally continuing to attempt to associate support for trump with a litany of unacceptable…

So you're saying that it's perfectly normal for a non-racist person to support a candidate who openly argued for deporting huge swaths of honest workers and enforce by law racial and religious discrimination?

I'm saying that if you believe you can so trivially comprehend and dismiss the emotional state of tens of millions of people who until today you possibly didn't even want to admit exist, you're fooling yourself badly.

Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by sctb »

ainot wrote: post #235

Why is it when I post garbage comments, they get downvoted. But when people post garbage comments that slam one or more of: 1) Republican 2) Christian 3) Conservative 4) Anyone from Texas except Austin 5) Anyone who works in the energy industry outside solar They don't get downvoted?

Please stop posting them. We've detached this from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12915030.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by krapp »

b_emery wrote: post #100
knowaveragejoe wrote: post #43

Some of this sounds great - term limits on congress, a measure to reduce the revolving door effect of government officials going into lobbying. Some of it sounds ridiculous - for every new federal regulation, 2 existing regulations must be eliminated. How is that considered feasible by any rational person? It might sound great if you don't think too hard about it. The scariest things for me are the backing out of cli…

California tried term limits. They didnt work. Turns out you need to have actual political skills to do politics.

And yet if you ask most Americans what "actual political skills" are, they'll likely say venality, corruption and malice, which leads us to having elected a president primarily on the basis of his incompetence.

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Post by SilasX »

leephillips wrote: post #224
stcredzero wrote: post #205

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The fact that the term "clean coal" can be bandied about with a straight face says something about the state of science education of the general public. (Pretty much the same knowledge needed to instantly realize that various wind/solar operated water-from-air devices and Solar Freakin Roadways aren't viable from back of the envelope calcs.)

“Sunlight is abundant beyond the energy needs of the entire human race”. (Los Alamos National Laboratory [ http://www.lanl.gov/discover/publications/1663/2015-may/pero... ].) This is their back of the envelope calculation.

Sure, as long as you can find a way to store and transport it and upgrade all capital equipment to use that mechanism.

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Post by waterphone »

davemel37 wrote: post #435
mywittyname wrote: post #310

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> If you really think about it. We only need this wall because of Mexico, so why should we pay if we dont have to? People flee Mexico because it's an extremely poor country with a horrible government and is controlled by drug cartels. Screwing the country over further economically sounds like the worst way to solve this problem. In fact, it seems like a very good way to exacerbate the problem. Perhaps that's why priv…

> Screwing the country over further economically sounds like the worst way to solve this problem. First, I am just a random uneducated and ignorant American, so take my two cents for what it is...only two cents. From my vantage point, cutting off the drug cartels access to the US market could potentially do wonders to shifting the balance of power and helping Mexico in the long run. Also, as unpopular as it is, the U…

You're not going to cut off the drug cartels. Sorry, it just isn't going to happen, and I say that as someone who lives in an area they use as a common smuggling route and have encountered groups of smugglers multiple times in the past few years. They walk through the desert and climb mountains with 60+ lb bales of marijuana on their back for days to a week at a time, going into terrain Border Patrol agents won't even try following them through most of the time. Even if a wall somehow gets built across the mountains and canyons all along the border, which it won't, they'll tunnel under, fire bales over, etc. They are very incentivized to get through, and they are very skilled at doing so and will find a way.

As for the use of the word "criminal", I think you may be the one misunderstanding in this instance. That word is used to refer to those Trump plans to deport, but on the second page you'll note:

> establishes a two-year mandatory minimum federal prison sentence for illegally re-entering the U.S. after a previous deportation

No mention of criminal there—if you get caught more than once you would go to federal prison in the U.S. for a mandatory minimum of 2 years.

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Post by theptip »

jdc0589 wrote: post #122

> FIFTH, I will lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars’ worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal This is what I have the biggest problem with. The ONLY WAY we are going to continue making progress towards widespread clean renewable energy is if it is financially beneficial for corporations to continue investing in R&D. Sure, there are s…

Agreed, this is the definition of short-sightedness. And the difficult part is that it's likely to produce a significant (short-term) boost to the economy.

Subsequent generations will have to pay back the principal on this loan, with interest. And we will lose our opportunity to carve out a leadership position in the energy technologies of the 21st century, as well.

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Post by dlp211 »

davemel37 wrote: post #435
mywittyname wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you really think about it. We only need this wall because of Mexico, so why should we pay if we dont have to? People flee Mexico because it's an extremely poor country with a horrible government and is controlled by drug cartels. Screwing the country over further economically sounds like the worst way to solve this problem. In fact, it seems like a very good way to exacerbate the problem. Perhaps that's why priv…

> Screwing the country over further economically sounds like the worst way to solve this problem. First, I am just a random uneducated and ignorant American, so take my two cents for what it is...only two cents. From my vantage point, cutting off the drug cartels access to the US market could potentially do wonders to shifting the balance of power and helping Mexico in the long run. Also, as unpopular as it is, the U…

> From my vantage point, cutting off the drug cartels access to the US market could potentially do wonders to shifting the balance of power and helping Mexico in the long run.

If you think a wall is going to do this, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I want to sell you. A physical wall is going to slow the cartels down for a week while they round up a bunch of Mexican citizens at gunpoint and force them to dig tunnels into the US, build submersibles to get here via waterways, and just go buy a dozen ladders. There are literally people that can climb a 10 foot wall without a ladder.

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Post by novalis78 »

gshulegaard wrote: post #259
jdc0589 wrote: post #122

> FIFTH, I will lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars’ worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal This is what I have the biggest problem with. The ONLY WAY we are going to continue making progress towards widespread clean renewable energy is if it is financially beneficial for corporations to continue investing in R&D. Sure, there are s…

I don't know: > THIRD, a requirement that for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated. Is scariest to me given a Republican controlled Congress. The one sided control makes me nervous.

This is fantastic. That's exactly how it should be. Otherwise over decades you end up with regulations that stifle all forms of entrepreneurship and creativity.
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