This has created a very large divide which is very interesting to watch unfold... how certain groups are so off the mark as to the cause, and to watch both groups react. Never thought I'd see something like this.
Donald Trump Is Elected President
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#853My takeaway from this is that our strategy of "shaming" people into voting a certain way doesn't work. Exit polls seem to suggest that plenty of people understated their support for Trump because they were embarrassed to admit they voted for him. But they still did. In effect, you don't stop people from supporting racism, homophobia, or misogyny by calling attention to it. That only makes them support it quietly. You…
>they were racist, sexist, or Islamophobic This is a big issue here, and something that I don't feel that many democrats seem to understand. It wasn't a race issue, it was an immigration issue since many illegal immigrants have taken American jobs. It isn't sexist to acknowledge differences in the genders. It isn't islamophobic to see cultural issues with Islam that would cause integration issues, especially with a l…
> It isn't sexist to acknowledge differences in the genders.
You know that is emphatically not the kind of statement that people were concerned with when they were talking about Trump's sexism.
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#854Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Terrorism: more toddlers killed Americans than terrorists in 2015. For every terrorist killing someone on US soil, more than 4000 Americans killed each other. Terrorism isn't a fake issue. You're ignoring the potential devastating effects that a successful terrorist attack on U.S. soil could have. Terrorists are always trying to up their game and its because of this that they represent a significant threat. Toddler…
Are you statistics challenged? Even an attack on the level of 9/11 will be significantly lower than the number of Americans that shoot each other to death per year. If you want to read about the likelihood of a nuclear attack by terrorists, read Physics for Future Presidents. It's very, very low.
Why are you measuring the number of people that shoot each other, vs. the number killed? Why only look at 2015? Your statistics are just as suspect. I'd recommend reading this:
slatestarcodex.com/2016/08/31/terrorists-vs-chairs-an-outlier-story/
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#855My optimistic take: he's probably going to be a Berlusconi. Generally bad for the economy, bad for freedom, but probably won't carry through on the worst of his bad ideas. I think there's a small chance he'll be more of a Mussolini. The obvious thing to look for there is if he starts trying to carry out the threat to deport illegal immigrants, which would require door to door searches, "papers please" and that kind o…
I had exactly the same idea: somewhere between Berlusconi and Mussolini. However, I don't think he is nearly as intelligent as either, so I don't think he will last more than 4 years.
I agree on the Baltic states. Also, if you're in Aleppo, may god have mercy on your soul. And Europe should prepare for more refugees and destabilisation (exactly what Putin wants). It's not going to be a pretty next 4 years...
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#856Earlier quoted context omitted.
Education. It's what Obama was emphasizing his entire presidency. Those jobs are never coming back, and even more are going to be automated. The education gap between rich and poor (and white and minority) is getting larger because of hoodlum-fearing mothers who support segregated neighborhoods and schools. Plus the poor-parent schools stay poor and the rich-parent schools stay rich. All of these factors together (wh…
I believe in education, but it's not a panacea. No amount of education will help someone who just isn't cut out for a white-collar job.
We're not just talking about white collar jobs. We're also talking about skilled blue collar jobs.
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#857Earlier quoted context omitted.
Education. It's what Obama was emphasizing his entire presidency. Those jobs are never coming back, and even more are going to be automated. The education gap between rich and poor (and white and minority) is getting larger because of hoodlum-fearing mothers who support segregated neighborhoods and schools. Plus the poor-parent schools stay poor and the rich-parent schools stay rich. All of these factors together (wh…
Oversaturation through education isn't even the solution. We're looking at a future with not enough jobs. Cutting the working week to 30 hours, on the other hand...
That's not the case. Unemployment has been steadily dropping in recent years. The problem is that the new jobs require an education:
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-r...
http://www.businessinsider.com/gap-between-unemployment-amon...
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#858Earlier quoted context omitted.
Education. It's what Obama was emphasizing his entire presidency. Those jobs are never coming back, and even more are going to be automated. The education gap between rich and poor (and white and minority) is getting larger because of hoodlum-fearing mothers who support segregated neighborhoods and schools. Plus the poor-parent schools stay poor and the rich-parent schools stay rich. All of these factors together (wh…
I believe in education, but it's not a panacea. No amount of education will help someone who just isn't cut out for a white-collar job.
Elitism like this is part of the reason democrats lost this political cycle.
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#859My optimistic take: he's probably going to be a Berlusconi. Generally bad for the economy, bad for freedom, but probably won't carry through on the worst of his bad ideas. I think there's a small chance he'll be more of a Mussolini. The obvious thing to look for there is if he starts trying to carry out the threat to deport illegal immigrants, which would require door to door searches, "papers please" and that kind o…
I had exactly the same idea: somewhere between Berlusconi and Mussolini. However, I don't think he is nearly as intelligent as either, so I don't think he will last more than 4 years. I agree on the Baltic states. Also, if you're in Aleppo, may god have mercy on your soul. And Europe should prepare for more refugees and destabilisation (exactly what Putin wants). It's not going to be a pretty next 4 years...
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best...
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#860As someone who's actively vocalized his support for Trump in the past, both here[1] and in my meat space life, I'm ecstatic with the results of this election. Not just the POTUS, but the trifecta of the house and senate as well. That's as loud of a mandate as can be expected from a strongly divided country. On top of all that, with the SCOTUS picks that are expected in the next few years, this election is going to be…
Don't think that is possible. If I was a democrat today I'd do like the Republicans have been doing the last 8 years and do my outmost to make the Trump Presidency be a major failure. The way the republicans have played this game is so dirty, that you can't expect people to forgive. We can not reward such a divisive character like Donald Trump with his racism, xenophobia, mysogny, insults and bullying with a successf…
> the democrats should do the best the sabotage him and make sure everything he does fails.
Trump's got a lot more experience playing that game than they do.