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Re: Show HN: Mest – Place to talk with those you disagree with

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Post by electic »

Another app I would like to suggest is Placecot. It allows you to post to neighborhoods and places nearby. So post to your local coffee shop or neighborhood and have a discussion. Better yet, meet those people in person. Part of the problem with society is we are all in filtered bubbles and no one meets and talks anymore.

You can find it on the app store here: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/placecot/id1024884410?mt=8

I hope your journey meeting humans is as eye opening as mine has been. P.S. I am the founder. Feedback welcome.

Re: Show HN: Mest – Place to talk with those you disagree with

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Post by pklausler »

farright wrote: post #93
pklausler wrote: post #74

There are disagreements over opinions and there are disagreements over basic facts, and I'm just done with arguing with crazy people who have their own weird realities.

Everyone needs to break out of their own bubble to some extent, though other equally misinformed people may not be the best source. My advice is to read the most informed, reasonable representatives of different viewpoints you can find, and then see why they disagree. Often people will play fast and loose with the facts in order to convince people they consider less educated, but when directing their words towards th…

Whites were arrested for 276,460 violent crimes in 2015. Blacks were arrested for 169,612.

Source: http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=datool&surl=/arrests/index.c...

Re: Show HN: Mest – Place to talk with those you disagree with

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Post by seanisko »

losteric wrote: post #95
okreallywtf wrote: post #75

While I think that tech tools like this have the potential to be great, so far I think technology has made the problem worse. My conclusion from my recent experiences over the last year or so with the election and before (and volunteering/organizing volunteers therefor) is that people don't just need to communicate, we need to interact, and my observation is that this needs to happen (or at the very least works best)…

I think modern transportation and communication have contributed to our increasingly divided society... by extending our interactions over larger areas, those tools allow us to naively fall into our own physical "filter bubbles". Modern transportation contributed towards physical obesity. Technology became so efficient and so cheap that we became isolated from physical reality... we have to work out in order to stay…

I agree with these statements. Debate has become an offensive action many will go to great lengths to avoid.

Re: Show HN: Mest – Place to talk with those you disagree with

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Post by stevens32 »

Great idea! We really have to work on not demonizing the 'other side'. I spent some time during the primaries trying to read through subreddits of supporters for the opposite candidate, trying to understand where they were coming from. That didn't work very well.

Learning to disagree constructively is a really important skill that we don't often get a chance to work on.

Re: Show HN: Mest – Place to talk with those you disagree with

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Post by TulliusCicero »

pklausler wrote: post #102
farright wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone needs to break out of their own bubble to some extent, though other equally misinformed people may not be the best source. My advice is to read the most informed, reasonable representatives of different viewpoints you can find, and then see why they disagree. Often people will play fast and loose with the facts in order to convince people they consider less educated, but when directing their words towards th…

Whites were arrested for 276,460 violent crimes in 2015. Blacks were arrested for 169,612. Source: http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=datool&surl=/arrests/index.c...

> Whites were arrested for 276,460 violent crimes in 2015. Blacks were arrested for 169,612.

Do you think there are the same number of blacks and whites in America?

Re: Show HN: Mest – Place to talk with those you disagree with

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Post by TulliusCicero »

madamelic wrote: post #82
at-fates-hands wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even in the face of basic facts, people are still not very forthcoming in wanting to engage in a rational discourse. For instance, people who lost their minds that Bush misled the public on the WMD's in Iraq, were just fine arguing the fact that Obama lied when he said if I like my doctor, I can keep my doctor or when he said my health care costs would go down $2,500/year. I'm sorry, but you can't accuse one party of…

I think most people would agree "ObamaCare" is a disaster. Most rational people could look at it and go "Yeah, we should do something differently". "Republicans" say rip it out, go back to what we had before, don't adopt anything from it. "Democrats" say to keep it and try to fix it. Can it be fixed? Who knows. But ripping something out because it isn't perfect after two years is completely insane. The US has a compl…

> I think most people would agree "ObamaCare" is a disaster.

Except that people like a lot of the individual provisions of Obamacare, like no denying based on pre-existing conditions, kids staying on parents' health insurance until they're 26, etc.

It just doesn't do much to control costs. The current healthcare system has neither a single-payer forcing hospitals to keep costs down, nor much in the way of market incentives to keep costs down (since most people pay for healthcare indirectly via health insurance, and even that is controlled by their employer).

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