It's enough of a challenge to communicate effectively through text-only discussions with people I like. I like this idea, but wish it were full video chat so I could get facial expressions and tone.
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The days of toleration, of nodding along and trying to engage with the crazy uncle over thanksgiving dinner seem to have failed. Indeed. But whose failure is it? > Everyone thinks that such people can be negotiated with. I don't think they can until they understand exactly what they are doing. You're assuming that everyone who supported Trump is racist. I know several intelligent, non-racist people who voted for Tr…
"51% of the country" Clinton won the popular vote.
I think that was the implication, that Clinton folks are more or less guaranteed not to hate bi-racial children.
(Not that I agree or disagree with that.)
Re: Show HN: Mest – Place to talk with those you disagree with
#53It's enough of a challenge to communicate effectively through text-only discussions with people I like. I like this idea, but wish it were full video chat so I could get facial expressions and tone.
No, no you really don't. Didn't Chatroulette teach anyone anything?
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#54Isn't that what the internet is for?
Until most communities naturally dissolve into "subreddit"-esque groups where users share similar views to enjoy validation and avoid being downvoted. Explicitly encouraging opposing viewpoints may help alleviate this problem.
Not really. It just encourages people to fight for their team.
You need a place where there are no teams, where it's not A vs. B, but a place where you're tackling smaller problems and talking solutions which can be understood and validated.
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#57Hi everyone, Recently, given the results of the election and the divisiveness that's been revealed because of it, it seems like the country isn't talking to one another anymore. We're afraid of one another and the polices the other political party will put in place. A lot of this, I think, has to deal with the lack of communication between actual human beings that lie on both sides of the isle. I made this app, Mest,…
I actually think we're talking too much. Sometimes even when we have nothing constructive to say.
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#58Your bundle.js file is 4.4MB and took 30 seconds to load (given several attempts). I would consider getting that under control, at the very least gzip the file.
Use a CDN? I already have these libs cached...
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#59The time for talking seems over. The days of toleration, of nodding along and trying to engage with the crazy uncle over thanksgiving dinner seem to have failed. It may be time for more direct action, for properly ostracizing such people. The racists and homophones aren't going to be invited to my family gatherings anymore. And when they ask I will make sure they understand why. Everyone thinks that such people can b…
And this type of post is how we got there. Thanks for illustrating the problem :)
This. Exactly.
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#60Hi everyone, Recently, given the results of the election and the divisiveness that's been revealed because of it, it seems like the country isn't talking to one another anymore. We're afraid of one another and the polices the other political party will put in place. A lot of this, I think, has to deal with the lack of communication between actual human beings that lie on both sides of the isle. I made this app, Mest,…
Agree in principle, but one thing that threw me off off the bat- it asked if I was for or against trump. My views are more nuanced than that- to the point I wouldn't feel comfortable selecting either. Not sure how to best express that in the app, but I do think it's one of the things people misunderstand about "the other".
This tool is mind-blowingly effective a warding off the sort of concerns that you raise, of a tool not capturing and reflecting users' many complex viewpoints:
https://blog.pol.is/pol-is-in-taiwan-da7570d372b5#.1pbjuwoqa
It's mainly geared toward single-issue consultations and discussions, but definitely worth understanding.
I know some folks who facilitate municipal consultations in one of the largest Canadian cities, a job for which helping often divided participants to arrive at meaningful consensus is high-priority. Their comment after the demo was "My mind is honestly reeling right now. Never in my life did I think any part of my job could be automated and democratized, because what I do is synthesize fuzzy participant feelings in a very unscalable way. But this tool just might automate away some of what we do."