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Re: Canada's immigration website crashes on election night

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A few points I think are relevant: - I find leaving your country only because you didn't vote for the winner is rather cowardly, you can still do something about it, we're not quite talking systemic harassment yet... - as a friend of mine pointed out, Canada is not a consolation prize for disgruntled americans, it's a real country, with its own real people and its own real problems - having just aquired my canadian p…

They're not leaving the country. Their country left them.

Re: Canada's immigration website crashes on election night

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A few points I think are relevant: - I find leaving your country only because you didn't vote for the winner is rather cowardly, you can still do something about it, we're not quite talking systemic harassment yet... - as a friend of mine pointed out, Canada is not a consolation prize for disgruntled americans, it's a real country, with its own real people and its own real problems - having just aquired my canadian p…

This. And somewhat ironically, if Hillary had won people would be telling those disenfranchised voters who broke for Trump to listen to the will of the people. That it was time to man/woman up. But because they lost they now feel like they lost all. That feeling is what drove Trump voters --they have lost their way of life. The one where one didn't have to have a graduate degree to have a stable and dependable income…

>And somewhat ironically, if Hillary had won people would be telling those disenfranchised voters who broke for Trump to listen to the will of the people

Hillary wasn't threatening groups of people. Muslims, gays, transgender people, and more are actually in for a worse time in this country. It's not always about just being disgruntled.

Re: Canada's immigration website crashes on election night

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What is it like for an American making the move? What were the best and worst parts?

First paying the heavy Dutch taxes, then having to pay US taxes because you're still a citizen.

The US has a tax treaty with the Netherlands, so there is no double-taxation.

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This. And somewhat ironically, if Hillary had won people would be telling those disenfranchised voters who broke for Trump to listen to the will of the people. That it was time to man/woman up. But because they lost they now feel like they lost all. That feeling is what drove Trump voters --they have lost their way of life. The one where one didn't have to have a graduate degree to have a stable and dependable income…

>And somewhat ironically, if Hillary had won people would be telling those disenfranchised voters who broke for Trump to listen to the will of the people Hillary wasn't threatening groups of people. Muslims, gays, transgender people, and more are actually in for a worse time in this country. It's not always about just being disgruntled.

Her Saudi backers threaten everyone.

Her Soros funded protest machinery put police in hospital.

The BLM anarchy, again funded by Soros, killed cops on US soil.

Re: Canada's immigration website crashes on election night

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> having just aquired my canadian permanent residence after years and lots of money Slightly off topic: I've been through the process as well and accept the frustrations but I didn't not think the costs were unreasonable. I only had to pay CIC application fees. How was the process harrowing for you? Not defending the frustration, just curious I guess.

Compare it to US immigration also, where I got 6 years and easily over $20,000 in employer-paid costs in, and didn't even get to the green card stage. [EDIT] Overstated cost, ran the numbers it's $20-25K.

FWIW the breakdown looks like this (for me):

Initially entered on a TN, a lawyer will charge approximately $2,000 to prepare the letter. Luckily the filing fee here is $50.

Converted to an H-1B, for which filing fees are $3050 (including premium processing of course). This carries with it a legal cost of up to $3000 for preparing the paperwork and shepherding it through, so $6050.

Moved my H-1B to a new employer, that's another $6050 for the new employer.

That gets us close to the $15,000 mark.

Next, a PERM petition was prepared which costs approximately $3000 in legal fees, in addition to advertising a job for at least 6 months including 2 Sundays in the local newspaper, and interviewing each candidate that shows up.

And six years.

So I guess I was off, but it definitely didn't cost less than $20,000 -- probably closer to $25,000 if you take into account the employer burden of PERM interviews.

Re: Canada's immigration website crashes on election night

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This. And somewhat ironically, if Hillary had won people would be telling those disenfranchised voters who broke for Trump to listen to the will of the people. That it was time to man/woman up. But because they lost they now feel like they lost all. That feeling is what drove Trump voters --they have lost their way of life. The one where one didn't have to have a graduate degree to have a stable and dependable income…

>And somewhat ironically, if Hillary had won people would be telling those disenfranchised voters who broke for Trump to listen to the will of the people Hillary wasn't threatening groups of people. Muslims, gays, transgender people, and more are actually in for a worse time in this country. It's not always about just being disgruntled.

While Trump says he will introduce a temporary ban Muslims from problematic places, I don't think I heard him speak against LGBTQ issues --if anything this is one of the things which made "conservative" republicans nervous about him --that in that regard he's pretty open minded (You'd imagine if he had Thiel speak at his convention, that kind of tips his hand). Also saying he didn't care what restroom Caitlin Jenner chose to use at his properties.

Re: Canada's immigration website crashes on election night

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post #461

A few points I think are relevant: - I find leaving your country only because you didn't vote for the winner is rather cowardly, you can still do something about it, we're not quite talking systemic harassment yet... - as a friend of mine pointed out, Canada is not a consolation prize for disgruntled americans, it's a real country, with its own real people and its own real problems - having just aquired my canadian p…

> I find leaving your country only because you didn't vote for the winner is rather cowardly I have some fairly close friends who are Muslim, Latino, and LGBT. Trump has been quite nasty towards the first two groups, and his running mate (likely to be one of the most powerful VPs in US history) makes no secret of opposing the rights of the latter group. This morning I'm hearing all of them express legitimate fear for…

While taking a deep breath to avoid hyperbole about Trump, it might be worth pointing out that the 9th of November is the anniversary for the Kristallnacht:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht

Now, I honestly don't think Trump will be as bad as Mussolini, Franco or Hitler - but we do have some fairly horrifying recent precedent for what might happen when a right-wing populist gains power during an economic crisis.

I don't think the fact that the US have spent years getting ready for, in the words of Edward Snowden(?): "turn key totalitarianism", along with a radical militarization of the police force makes much of an improvement.

That said:

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/11/trump-victory-clinton-san...

"Politics Is the Solution

We can’t move to Canada or hide under the bed. This is a moment to embrace democratic politics, not repudiate them."

Re: Canada's immigration website crashes on election night

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My wife is an American and we live together here in Denmark. If you move, please reach out. We'll be glad to welcome you!

Would Muslim Americans be welcome, given current trends?

Here is what a quick google search throws:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151220/05391733140/denma...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/26/europe/denmark-vote-jewelry-bi...

Suffice to say not exactly a paragon of liberty and freedom for all. But it might work for white techno elites for whom being not in US/UK and writing web apps is all they want.

Re: Canada's immigration website crashes on election night

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"attractive for the combination of proximity, and cultural/linguistic similarities... There is something to be said for not having to deal with the ... insane levels of violence too." If you just take the above elements of your reasoning, you've just described White flight.

I mean, if there was a State in the US where guns were realistically outlawed I'd move there too. Implying that is "white" flight is implying that white people are not major perpetrators of gun violence in America, which simply isn't true. Gun violence in the US is a major problem and our gun ownership and sales policies are at the heart of it. I've considered moving my family away from it long before this horrifying…

See https://www.statista.com/chart/3848/the-us-murder-rate-compa...

The murder rate for whites in the US (i.e. the rate at which whites are murdered) is 2.5 per 100,000 much lower than the overall murder rate of 5.2 per 100,000. This is still higher than most of the West, e.g. 70% higher than Canada. But not the "extreme levels" you referred to earlier.

And you didn't mention guns before, I'm assuming you don't really only care about violence that comes out of the barrel of a gun, and you're just adding this now to avoid discussing the link between race and crime.

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