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Re: Canada's immigration website crashes on election night

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Post by Merad »

grownseed wrote: post #422

A few points I think are relevant: - I find leaving your country only because you didn't vote for the winner is rather cowardly, you can still do something about it, we're not quite talking systemic harassment yet... - as a friend of mine pointed out, Canada is not a consolation prize for disgruntled americans, it's a real country, with its own real people and its own real problems - having just aquired my canadian p…

> I find leaving your country only because you didn't vote for the winner is rather cowardly

I have some fairly close friends who are Muslim, Latino, and LGBT. Trump has been quite nasty towards the first two groups, and his running mate (likely to be one of the most powerful VPs in US history) makes no secret of opposing the rights of the latter group. This morning I'm hearing all of them express legitimate fear for their future. I'm not saying that running to Canada is the answer for them or anyone else, but this is not your typical "generic Republican vs generic Democrat, boo-hoo my side lost" post-election complaining.

Re: Canada's immigration website crashes on election night

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Post by M_Grey »

wyoh wrote: post #338
M_Grey wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Congress, and 3 Supreme Court justices... it's going to be a bloodbath on civil liberties.

It depends which civil liberties, gun rights will hopefully be less threatened than with liberal SCOTUS.

You can already own and operate a fucking arsenal, what more do you want?

Re: Canada's immigration website crashes on election night

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Post by M_Grey »

jmaygarden wrote: post #398
M_Grey wrote: post #206

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That sounds awful, until you realize just how many people live in those "small bands".

"When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe." Thomas Jefferson

Yeah, he also owned slaves, and fucked them. It's not as though everything that came out of his mouth was gospel truth.

Re: Canada's immigration website crashes on election night

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Post by M_Grey »

spiderfarmer wrote: post #311
M_Grey wrote: post #210

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Yeah, I can't think of many places with steeper hurdles to citizenship, although Japan laps them in that race.

Only if you speak German and are able to deal with their not very welcoming nature, you might stand a chance. I know a couple of expats who had everything in their favor (language, skills, local connections) and after 5-10 years still decided to move to Austria and Germany.

That must have been exceedingly difficult, after so much time invested in Switzerland!

Re: Canada's immigration website crashes on election night

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Post by joatmon-snoo »

masonic wrote: post #192
mattnewton wrote: post #181

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Yes. I have two sisters that could lose access to birth control and planned parenthood. One of them dates a black man and already gets racial slurs thrown at them in public. These results are only going to embolden that behavior. America has voted for a mysogynistic sexist at its highest ceremonial office, you don't think that affects what is acceptable discourse? You don't think the SCOTUS is changed for a generatio…

"Yes. I have two sisters that could lose access to birth control and planned parenthood." By what specific mechanism could a Trump presidency cause them to lose access to birth control or abortion?

e.g., the nomination and appointment of a Justice:

See Currier:

- http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/currier-v-jackson...

- https://www.statnews.com/2016/07/01/mississippi-abortion-cli...

Also see Whole Woman's Health:

- http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/whole-womans-heal...

- http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/28/us/supreme-court-texas-abo...

Re: Canada's immigration website crashes on election night

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Post by smoe »

eloff wrote: post #448
smoe wrote: post #415

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Most don't, some do. I myself moved from Switzerland to Colombia. Among other reasons because I wanted a break from the Swiss cultural and political climate. But for me, emigrating isn't a definite thing. At least as long as I don't have children. Maybe I'll stay, maybe go back, maybe move somewhere else after a while.

As someone who spent ten years in Panama and working for a Swiss company, that must have been a culture shock after Switzerland. Did you speak Spanish before you moved?

Added up, I have spent almost two years in Latin America prior to moving here. Just traveling the first time and traveling plus working remotely the second time. So I already spoke the language quite well and roughly knew what to expect. I didn't expect the grass to be greener. Just greener in some parts, browner in others.

Also I like being culture shocked – it tends to widen my horizon :)

Re: Canada's immigration website crashes on election night

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Post by da02 »

MaysonL wrote: post #225
da02 wrote: post #12

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Because of politics? Or other reasons?

I'm not 100% sure: here's a quote – 'I didn't "flee" America. What I fled are tribalistic homo-apes who have reverted back to simply responding to their instincts. Just a bunch of reactionary emotions without rational thought.'

Thanks. He sounds like me. I use the term, "Caveman Majority". Will you be staying in the US now or are you fantasizing about leaving?

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Post by coredog64 »

kilotaras wrote: post #270
mirkules wrote: post #163

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Can you point to some supreme court cases? One that comes to mind is Lawrence v. Texas, which struck down the "sodomy law" by a largely republican court (I think only one or two justices were democratic at the time) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelby_County_v._Holder - aka gutting of Voter Rights Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC - aka "Companies are people and money is free speech"

That's a gross misstatement of Citizens United. People do not give up their right to free speech by forming a voluntary organization (aka a corporation). We know this is true because we allow corporations and organizations like the New York Times, the ACLU, and the Teamsters unions to have a right to free speech.

As for money being free speech, the equivalence is that in general it costs money to publicize views. The FEC has limits on what you can do with the money (you're not supposed to buy jewelry or fancy vacations) and where it can come from.

Re: Canada's immigration website crashes on election night

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Post by coredog64 »

mattnewton wrote: post #182
inimino wrote: post #148

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Gay marriage is here to stay because of a massive shift in public opinion on the issue which has been taking place over decades. None of that is going away.

I have a hard time believing you after Trump said that he would get someone to repeal Roe V Wade and now he has the house and senate to do it.

An an actual repeal of Roe v. Wade (or Casey v. Planned Parenthood) is unlikely. It's mainly red meat for the base. To actually do it would be political suicide of the type we saw when an unpopular ACA was passed.
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