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Steve Wozniak has a little bit of fun at Gray Powell’s expense

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Re: Steve Wozniak has a little bit of fun at Gray Powell’s expense

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Post by Luc »

tptacek wrote: post #9
philk wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you care to clarify why? Apple is either upset with Gray or it isn't. Woz wearing an irreverent shirt won't change it either way.

Wozniak having a "sense of humor" about someone else's misfortune doesn't help that person. Meanwhile, there's the guy's name, plastered on a rich famous guy's belly, being mocked. I stand by my original comment and believes it sums the situation up precisely.

Au contraire... He's making light of the situation because it doesn't deserve a heavy-handed approach, and the engineer in question will be just fine at Apple. Losing the prototype could have happened to anyone.

It's good-natured ribbing. Besides, Woz doesn't have it in him to be mean, I reckon.

Re: Steve Wozniak has a little bit of fun at Gray Powell’s expense

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unignorant wrote: post #8

This seems to me rather insensitive -- more importantly, it's probably not worthy of Hacker News. Edit: Given the downvotes, I'd be quite happy to hear any legitimate grounds for disagreement. I consider the widely disseminated mocking of someone who hasn't knowingly signed on as a public figure to be insensitive (independent of how funny or clever that mocking might be, and independent of whether being insensitive w…

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Re: Steve Wozniak has a little bit of fun at Gray Powell’s expense

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Post by tptacek »

Luc wrote: post #11
tptacek wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wozniak having a "sense of humor" about someone else's misfortune doesn't help that person. Meanwhile, there's the guy's name, plastered on a rich famous guy's belly, being mocked. I stand by my original comment and believes it sums the situation up precisely.

Au contraire... He's making light of the situation because it doesn't deserve a heavy-handed approach, and the engineer in question will be just fine at Apple. Losing the prototype could have happened to anyone. It's good-natured ribbing. Besides, Woz doesn't have it in him to be mean, I reckon.

There's not a single pair of subject and predicate in this comment that I agree with. That's fine. We can disagree. I think much less of Wozniak for joking about someone else's career.

Re: Steve Wozniak has a little bit of fun at Gray Powell’s expense

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Post by xiaoma »

tptacek wrote: post #6
philk wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's called having a sense of humor and it's not harming Gray at all.

Strong disagree.

Would it pain you greatly to communicate in more than grunts, maybe even using subjects in your sentences? I really don't mean to be pedantic, but a comment consisting solely of "strong disagree" doesn't really lead to a productive conversation.

Re: Steve Wozniak has a little bit of fun at Gray Powell’s expense

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Post by philk »

tptacek wrote: post #9
philk wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you care to clarify why? Apple is either upset with Gray or it isn't. Woz wearing an irreverent shirt won't change it either way.

Wozniak having a "sense of humor" about someone else's misfortune doesn't help that person. Meanwhile, there's the guy's name, plastered on a rich famous guy's belly, being mocked. I stand by my original comment and believes it sums the situation up precisely.

There's clearly no malice intended, and I'd say "mocked" is far too strong a term. He's making fun of the situation, not Gray himself.

If you find this joke to be insensitive I'm having a hard time imagining what sort of humor you approve of, given practically every joke out there makes fun of someone/something.

Re: Steve Wozniak has a little bit of fun at Gray Powell’s expense

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Post by tptacek »

philk wrote: post #16
tptacek wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wozniak having a "sense of humor" about someone else's misfortune doesn't help that person. Meanwhile, there's the guy's name, plastered on a rich famous guy's belly, being mocked. I stand by my original comment and believes it sums the situation up precisely.

There's clearly no malice intended, and I'd say "mocked" is far too strong a term. He's making fun of the situation, not Gray himself. If you find this joke to be insensitive I'm having a hard time imagining what sort of humor you approve of, given practically every joke out there makes fun of someone/something.

There's nothing wrong with making fun of people. I do it incessantly. But I avoid doing it to people when they're down. And, if I ever achieve the sort of success Wozniak has, I hope I'll avoid doing it to people just starting to make their way in my field.

Re: Steve Wozniak has a little bit of fun at Gray Powell’s expense

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Post by philk »

marcamillion wrote: post #15

I would not be surprised if Gray Powell felt good when he saw this pic. Hell...if it were me...I would be jumping for joy that Woz even knows I exist.

I would be thrilled and (assuming I hadn't collapsed under the stress) I'd shamelessly milk it by trying to get Woz out for a drink.

Re: Steve Wozniak has a little bit of fun at Gray Powell’s expense

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Post by tptacek »

xiaoma wrote: post #14
tptacek wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strong disagree.

Would it pain you greatly to communicate in more than grunts, maybe even using subjects in your sentences? I really don't mean to be pedantic, but a comment consisting solely of "strong disagree" doesn't really lead to a productive conversation.

Maybe, after having his name sold to Nick Denton for $5000 for making a career-damaging mistake, the guy might rather get this past him, rather than becoming an industry punch line. I don't know. Unlike some people on HN, I'm not one of his friends.

Re: Steve Wozniak has a little bit of fun at Gray Powell’s expense

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Post by anigbrowl »

unignorant wrote: post #8

This seems to me rather insensitive -- more importantly, it's probably not worthy of Hacker News. Edit: Given the downvotes, I'd be quite happy to hear any legitimate grounds for disagreement. I consider the widely disseminated mocking of someone who hasn't knowingly signed on as a public figure to be insensitive (independent of how funny or clever that mocking might be, and independent of whether being insensitive w…

If it were anyone else, I would agree. But Steve Wozniak being who he is, I think it's a signal of 'all's well that ends well.'
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