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Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Now that the voices of the disenfranchised blue collar workers have been heard, what actually can be done to help them? I'm less worried about the accusations of racism, etc. because it appears to me a majority are voting because their livelihoods have been lost and, despite economics saying globalization will bring new jobs, they aren't showing up in the critical areas where they are needed. So, what policies can be…

The working poor voted for Hillary. Trump's support comes from households making $50,00 or greater.

it seems to be more accurate clustering division around rural / cities than rich / poor

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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post #60

I'd argue you are clueless. Trump has been sued several times for the discrimination against black people, he fired black people from his casinos and moved them to the back, he INSISTS TO THIS DAY that the Central Park Five are guilty despite DNA evidence, he jokes and also brags about literally molesting women. People like you disgust me. Stop acting like his words and actions don't matter.

Thank you for saying this. I needed this today. I am so damn sick of people trying to wiggle out of the "racist" label. Economic anxiety is not an excuse for racism.

@gragas I think to some extent, all of us are racist. Plus, unconscious bias is pretty much ubiquitous. I think you have to be more specific that saying that you are not racist.

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post #57

Trump is going to erase the entire Obama administration, a decent amount of Obama's impact was felt through executive order, all it takes is a signature to erase that.

Live by the sword, die by the sword. Or pen, in this case.

I'm not excited about a Trump presidency. But from 2009-2011 Democrats held majorities in both the House and Senate. Then was the time to get the major work done, legislatively, that could not be undone by another Executive Order.

That's on Obama.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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post #51

Now that the voices of the disenfranchised blue collar workers have been heard, what actually can be done to help them? I'm less worried about the accusations of racism, etc. because it appears to me a majority are voting because their livelihoods have been lost and, despite economics saying globalization will bring new jobs, they aren't showing up in the critical areas where they are needed. So, what policies can be…

The working poor voted for Hillary. Trump's support comes from households making $50,00 or greater.

Interesting that right around that number the Obamacare subsidies fade away and are replaced by fines. These are the people getting the short end of the stick in regards to the ACA.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

:) The internet has been such a nasty place today and, similarly to the day of the Paris attacks, it's been really nice to find reasonably moderate discourse on HN. As... curious as I personally find America's choices in presidency, I'm just as ashamed of some of my follower feeds on various social media. Seriously guys, don't demonize people, especially by association. Refusing to hear your political opponents out i…

It's tough. I've been trying to find a pen pal who can give me some reasonable arguments for Donald Trump for the last few weeks, to no avail. Not living in the US, I don't really meet people who support Donald Trump. I'm probably living in a bubble, which isn't a great feeling--but at the same time, it's hard to credit the democratic process when you can't understand the alternative view. No doubt this is a symptom…

What has helped me in this regard has been actively likeing Trump stuff on facebook. I didn't see much of that world, but enough to get a glimpse into their mindset.

I heaetily suggest actively seeking out opposing views and training your filter bubble to give them to you. It's refreshing and often frustrating and upsetting, bud fundamentally a good thing.

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Those factory jobs are not coming back. The wall will not get built and it would not even work. What we will have is some NYC cronyism and wealth inequality increases. We may even have a recession if they decided to touch any trade agreement or increase tariffs ( based on debt load private and public institutions have). Whomever inherited the white house was going to have a bad time, this will just have to go on Trum…

The only factory people who voted for Trump are the ones who code in Matlab.

http://i.imgur.com/RAaGDnW.jpg

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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We buried the previous thread on this because, at almost 2000 comments, it was pegging the server. If you'd like to read it, and don't intend to comment, you could help your fellow users by logging out first, so we can serve you the page from cache: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12907201 . If you do intend to comment, please take extra care to do so civilly and substantively, in the spirit of this site. Most p…

So...now we have to start all over? I know I sound like a complete d--k, but my laptop from 2012 has eight cores that each run over 3 billion cycles a second. How do I get frustrated by sites not accepting HN's "hug of death". An now HN can't even stand its own hug... Anyway, thanks for getting things running again! You guys are awesome!

It's Trump's hug of death this time.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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post #120

Now that the voices of the disenfranchised blue collar workers have been heard, what actually can be done to help them? I'm less worried about the accusations of racism, etc. because it appears to me a majority are voting because their livelihoods have been lost and, despite economics saying globalization will bring new jobs, they aren't showing up in the critical areas where they are needed. So, what policies can be…

I can think of several things, from cultural long term changes, rhetoric and acknowledge of human struggle, to smaller changes on the local level. We could start by not calling them privileged, demeaning them in their struggle. Acknowledging peoples struggle in life is often the first step in helping a demographic, be that women, black, white, immigrant, American born, or what have you. As cultural changes, one would…

> We could start by not calling them privileged, demeaning them in their struggle.

We don't call them privileged. Rather, they hear the insults and put-downs they want to hear by tuning in to customized news and propaganda that confirm their deepest insecurities.

> As cultural changes, one would be to lower the harm from being unemployed. For men, too much of social value and social opportunity is tied to being employed and having a high earning potential.

Re-engineering the social brain so that status doesn't matter? Wow. I doubt you'd have anything like homo sapiens after that.

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