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Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by knieveltech » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:14 PM UTC

jhanschoo wrote: post #66

dopamean wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the crux of why Trump's pandering to them was total bullshit. He can't do anything to help them because the jobs that left aren't coming back. In four years they will be in the same position they are now but they wont have a black man or a Democrat to blame for it and so they wont be quite as bitter about it.

Considering that so many of Trump's promises are infeasible, I'm wondering what Trump will actually do in office.

Act as an unfiltered pass-through for the house most likely.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by yahyaheee » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:14 PM UTC

_fizz_buzz_ wrote: post #83

koolba wrote: post #70

As someone who's actively vocalized his support for Trump in the past, both here[1] and in my meat space life, I'm ecstatic with the results of this election. Not just the POTUS, but the trifecta of the house and senate as well. That's as loud of a mandate as can be expected from a strongly divided country. On top of all that, with the SCOTUS picks that are expected in the next few years, this election is going to be…

> That's as loud of a mandate as can be expected from a strongly divided country Is not winning the popular vote really a strong mandate? http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/09/501393501/...

Seems like the people have spoken

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by fjdjcjncnd » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:14 PM UTC

CalChris wrote: post #24

TulliusCicero wrote: post #15

Terrifying, but the dems kind of brought it on themselves. A nominee who was actually likeable probably would've wiped the floor with Trump.

Again, Republicans did this. Don't blame this on Hillary (hint: she won the popular vote). Don't blame this on Democrats. Accept responsibility. As for likable, Hillary has been the most admired woman in America, 14 years straight. Trump ran the most negative fact free campaign ever to overcome her likability.

Because nothing underscores likeability quite like subverting the primary election and hiring an army of internet sockpuppets to shift public opinion in your favor.

This is going to happen again in 2020 unless the DNC realizes what they've done. Sanders would have handily won this election and they havr nobody to blame but themselves.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by mitchpron » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:14 PM UTC

SolaceQuantum wrote: post #17

Now that the voices of the disenfranchised blue collar workers have been heard, what actually can be done to help them? I'm less worried about the accusations of racism, etc. because it appears to me a majority are voting because their livelihoods have been lost and, despite economics saying globalization will bring new jobs, they aren't showing up in the critical areas where they are needed. So, what policies can be…

Education. It's what Obama was emphasizing his entire presidency. Those jobs are never coming back, and even more are going to be automated. The education gap between rich and poor (and white and minority) is getting larger because of hoodlum-fearing mothers who support segregated neighborhoods and schools. Plus the poor-parent schools stay poor and the rich-parent schools stay rich.

All of these factors together (which Democrats are actually interested in addressing) are growing an underclass of under-educated, unconnected people who can't make it in the world of the middle and upper class, so violence may become more frequent and jails will fill up. I doubt that the Trump administration and Congress have a plan that could come close to fixing this.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by DavajDavaj » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:15 PM UTC

I think the election of Trump is also a backslash against the PC, SJW, safe-space, trigger-warning, micro aggression tendencies that have been spreading in the U.S. for the last couple of years. This has become too much and millions of Americans are fed up with it, they have now spoken out.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by PeanutNore » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:15 PM UTC

CalChris wrote: post #24

TulliusCicero wrote: post #15

Terrifying, but the dems kind of brought it on themselves. A nominee who was actually likeable probably would've wiped the floor with Trump.

Again, Republicans did this. Don't blame this on Hillary (hint: she won the popular vote). Don't blame this on Democrats. Accept responsibility. As for likable, Hillary has been the most admired woman in America, 14 years straight. Trump ran the most negative fact free campaign ever to overcome her likability.

You keep repeating this. It doesn't seem to make sense to me. I voted for Clinton, and I'm a registered Democrat who voted for Sanders in the primary. I'm not sure what we're being asked to take responsibility for here. I feel that my party should take some responsibilty for nominating a candidate who could not prevail against such an unpopular and widely disliked opponent.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by gragas » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:16 PM UTC

vinhboy wrote: post #60

yolesaber wrote: post #43

I'd argue you are clueless. Trump has been sued several times for the discrimination against black people, he fired black people from his casinos and moved them to the back, he INSISTS TO THIS DAY that the Central Park Five are guilty despite DNA evidence, he jokes and also brags about literally molesting women. People like you disgust me. Stop acting like his words and actions don't matter.

Thank you for saying this. I needed this today. I am so damn sick of people trying to wiggle out of the "racist" label. Economic anxiety is not an excuse for racism.

I voted for Trump and I'm not racist.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by noobiemcfoob » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:16 PM UTC

koolba wrote: post #70

As someone who's actively vocalized his support for Trump in the past, both here[1] and in my meat space life, I'm ecstatic with the results of this election. Not just the POTUS, but the trifecta of the house and senate as well. That's as loud of a mandate as can be expected from a strongly divided country. On top of all that, with the SCOTUS picks that are expected in the next few years, this election is going to be…

I can't fathom you interpreting the result as a "loud mandate." The presidential race has been extremely tight with ~200,000 separating the two. Is that a clear mandate?

No, it is a clear indication of the divisions in our country.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by snuxoll » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:16 PM UTC

jhanschoo wrote: post #66

dopamean wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the crux of why Trump's pandering to them was total bullshit. He can't do anything to help them because the jobs that left aren't coming back. In four years they will be in the same position they are now but they wont have a black man or a Democrat to blame for it and so they wont be quite as bitter about it.

Considering that so many of Trump's promises are infeasible, I'm wondering what Trump will actually do in office.

Considering the majority in the house and senate, day 1 the ACA is going to get repealed - millions will lose their health coverage, and my employer's profitability is going to tank as a result as an increase of patients coming into the ER can't pay their medical bills and we end up sending them to collections before eventually writing it off.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Post by pja » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 4:16 PM UTC

curiousgal wrote: post #61

Ctrl - F Sanders 0 results. Hadn't Hilary been dishonest and, as much as I hate the word, crooked enough to not allow Bernie to face Trump, this wouldn't have happened.

Yup.

I could also see an Elizabeth Warren / Joe Biden ticket doing well against Trump.

This article in Current Affairs turns out to be prophetic: http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrat...