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Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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I'll say this again: Does this not prove that "diverse" liberalism isn't so diverse after all? Shouldn't a diverse group of people have seen this coming? Or is liberalism actually systematically excluding people by labelling them as "racist" and "sexist", when in fact they're just fiscal and social conservatives?

I don't mean this disrespectfully but I don't really understand your argument. It looks like there is a decent chance Clinton will win the popular vote and it seems like more a failure of statistics rather than diversity to not have been able to see her loss in a couple key states in the polls.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Now that the voices of the disenfranchised blue collar workers have been heard, what actually can be done to help them? I'm less worried about the accusations of racism, etc. because it appears to me a majority are voting because their livelihoods have been lost and, despite economics saying globalization will bring new jobs, they aren't showing up in the critical areas where they are needed. So, what policies can be…

Those old jobs are never coming back.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Do it in the spirit of those who hold the office of U.S. Presidency: be civil and courteous, make sure you don't disparage anyone's ethnicity or gender, and make sure you don't make wild and unfounded accusations, amiright?

Please don't ignore the request to be civil and substantive. HN depends on it.

We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12911042 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious, why is that just two thousand comments would bog down the server? What kind of processing is done by the server to render a thread?

Oh man—all kinds of stuff. The visible bits are an iceberg tip. And it all runs in a Racket process on a single core. That mammoth thread at least tells us where the brick wall is: at about two 'who is hiring's.

Good that nobody ever tried to combine the two, i.e. who is hiring and who wants to be hired, earlier.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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post #11

I'll say this again: Does this not prove that "diverse" liberalism isn't so diverse after all? Shouldn't a diverse group of people have seen this coming? Or is liberalism actually systematically excluding people by labelling them as "racist" and "sexist", when in fact they're just fiscal and social conservatives?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does any of this mean? Trump is labeled racist, sexist and misogynistic because of his words and actions. As are most people. And lots of people saw a Trump presidency as a possibility, like, everyone paying attention to the fact that there was a Republican presidential runner, and that person was Trump.

I'd argue he's none of those things.

There's plenty of evidence to the contrary.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious, why is that just two thousand comments would bog down the server? What kind of processing is done by the server to render a thread?

Oh man—all kinds of stuff. The visible bits are an iceberg tip. And it all runs in a Racket process on a single core. That mammoth thread at least tells us where the brick wall is: at about two 'who is hiring's.

Is it the total number that crushes things or the high level of nesting?

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Now that the voices of the disenfranchised blue collar workers have been heard, what actually can be done to help them? I'm less worried about the accusations of racism, etc. because it appears to me a majority are voting because their livelihoods have been lost and, despite economics saying globalization will bring new jobs, they aren't showing up in the critical areas where they are needed. So, what policies can be…

Dramatically increase the amount of housing in urban areas so more people can move there and away from the places without any industry left.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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I'll say this again: Does this not prove that "diverse" liberalism isn't so diverse after all? Shouldn't a diverse group of people have seen this coming? Or is liberalism actually systematically excluding people by labelling them as "racist" and "sexist", when in fact they're just fiscal and social conservatives?

> Does this not prove that "diverse" liberalism isn't so diverse after all? Shouldn't a diverse group of people have seen this coming? Even people on the GOP side seemed to accept that Trump was going to lose, so I'd say 'no'. Sometimes the polls are wrong, sometimes you just get surprising results.

It didn't surprise me. You have to look through the reality distortion field of the media and established politicians, because that only represents the views of a tiny and intellectually very non-diverse group of people. Consider the mismatch between what the media was reporting, and the undeniable fact that Trump's rallies attracted a far greater number of people than Clinton's. You also can't rely on the polls when you have a candidate whose voters are underrepresented in those polls because they've never voted before. Many polls sampled people as if this was Obama instead of Clinton. It's was clear that the number previous non-voters who would actually go out to vote for Clinton would be lower than for Obama, whereas from Trump it's the opposite.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Now that the voices of the disenfranchised blue collar workers have been heard, what actually can be done to help them? I'm less worried about the accusations of racism, etc. because it appears to me a majority are voting because their livelihoods have been lost and, despite economics saying globalization will bring new jobs, they aren't showing up in the critical areas where they are needed. So, what policies can be…

Working poor voting HRC: http://i.imgur.com/RAaGDnW.jpg

Dems across the board stayed home. And 9% of registered Dems voted for Trump.

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