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Donald Trump Is Elected President

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Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

#11
I'll say this again:

Does this not prove that "diverse" liberalism isn't so diverse after all? Shouldn't a diverse group of people have seen this coming?

Or is liberalism actually systematically excluding people by labelling them as "racist" and "sexist", when in fact they're just fiscal and social conservatives?

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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We buried the previous thread on this because, at almost 2000 comments, it was pegging the server. If you'd like to read it, and don't intend to comment, you could help your fellow users by logging out first, so we can serve you the page from cache: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12907201 . If you do intend to comment, please take extra care to do so civilly and substantively, in the spirit of this site. Most p…

It was pegging my browser too!

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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We buried the previous thread on this because, at almost 2000 comments, it was pegging the server. If you'd like to read it, and don't intend to comment, you could help your fellow users by logging out first, so we can serve you the page from cache: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12907201 . If you do intend to comment, please take extra care to do so civilly and substantively, in the spirit of this site. Most p…

I'm curious, why is that just two thousand comments would bog down the server? What kind of processing is done by the server to render a thread?

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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What happened to the ~1300 comments?

Explained at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12911042 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12910929. Sorry, I forgot I had 'delay' set on my profile or you would have seen the first of those instead of an empty thread.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

#17
Now that the voices of the disenfranchised blue collar workers have been heard, what actually can be done to help them? I'm less worried about the accusations of racism, etc. because it appears to me a majority are voting because their livelihoods have been lost and, despite economics saying globalization will bring new jobs, they aren't showing up in the critical areas where they are needed.

So, what policies can be put in place specifically to help this demographic? I genuinely don't know.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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post #11

I'll say this again: Does this not prove that "diverse" liberalism isn't so diverse after all? Shouldn't a diverse group of people have seen this coming? Or is liberalism actually systematically excluding people by labelling them as "racist" and "sexist", when in fact they're just fiscal and social conservatives?

Don't blame your election of a demagogue on liberals. Take responsibility for that yourself. Own it.

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

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post #11

I'll say this again: Does this not prove that "diverse" liberalism isn't so diverse after all? Shouldn't a diverse group of people have seen this coming? Or is liberalism actually systematically excluding people by labelling them as "racist" and "sexist", when in fact they're just fiscal and social conservatives?

Diversity means including people in out-groups at the risk of alienating people in the in-group

Re: Donald Trump Is Elected President

#20
Note that the last chart ("Clinton’s support from minorities fell short") seems to be erroneous, in that the graphic does not match the text.

I think the NYT article glosses over the real story this election: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/09/why-the-lat... ("Hispanic voters were supposed to be one of Clinton’s blue firewalls—but one in three ended up splitting for Trump.")

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