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Donald Trump is the president-elect of the U.S.

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Post by mikeash »

jakebasile wrote: post #371
icedchocolate wrote: post #284

Honestly Brexit and Trump both tell me that democracy doesn't work, because the majority of the population is undereducated, bigoted, and has absolutely no idea about how to run an economy - it makes no sense for the working class who don't understand the most basic of economic concepts to influence how the economy is run. I hope he doesn't screw America's economy by preventing skilled immigrants coming in and helpin…

Can you cite an example where a modern dictatorship substantially improved its subject's lives? This kind of demeaning talk is what got us here. Most people are, by definition, of nearly average intelligence. And someone's intellect doesn't preclude them from the right to have a voice in how they are governed just because they disagree with you. I voted for Clinton, so I'm just as disappointed as you are. Let's work…

China? I'm not rushing to move there, but hundreds of millions are far better off today than in 1949.

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Post by snsr »

thewarrior wrote: post #44

It is possible to view this as an isolated event or a trend. Coming on the heels of BREXIT this is a trend. The attempts at building an interconnected globalised world are beginning to fail. A bunch of elites decided to create their own trans-national utopia unchecked by borders and dismissed all criticism as racist or bigoted. The globalisation project has been rejected by a majority of the population. Whether it is…

> The divide is bridged one person at a time.

This divide will not be bridged.

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Post by mstade »

robalfonso wrote: post #817
mstade wrote: post #712

It's obviously not going to happen, but let's play hypotheticals for a minute. Do you have to have at least 270 electoral votes, or is the requirement just an electoral majority? Hypothetically – and the chance of this happening is obviously nil – if 10 people who are supposed to vote for Trump in the electoral college decides to be faithless and abstain or vote for Hillary, what would happen? At that point Trump wou…

I won't get too much into the various possibilities, but simply put, if neither candidate has 270 electoral votes, then the election is decided by congress, the incoming one. So really there is no chance its not trump.

Right, and congress must vote from the available candidates, and couldn't pick anyone? Obviously none of this will happen, but it's fun to think about I think.

If you've seen the tv show Veep, they play around with a similar scenario, but one where the electoral college is tied. In the show, congress also ends up in a tie, and so elects the vice president into office instead. As far as I understand the rules though, the vice president would only be elevated to president in case congress can't resolve the matter before inauguration day, and will only hold the office until congress resolves the tie and picks a president.

I probably have most of this wrong, but I think it's very interesting to hypothesize about the possibilities, no matter how remote. I obviously don't think any of this would happen, but it's fun to think about.

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Post by efaref »

dev1n wrote: post #711

Unless trump has this grand, hidden plan to invest heavily in infrastructure, people in the middle of the country will see increasing unemployment.

It's not really hidden. I mean, it's right there on his website: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/an-americas-infrastruc...

I don't know how he plans to pay for it, though. I assume Mexico will be occupied paying for his wall.

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Post by hyperdunc »

navinsylvester wrote: post #145

Saddened to see the world heading towards a very unsavory place. The Brexit effect is going to take us backward and backward. We are going to see more hatred being spread :(. How did we come down to this place?. #1 Americans policy in the middle east is a total washout. The repercussions of it is starting to rear its head. #2 The rigidity of the staunch followers of religions in following the rule of the land. I mean…

If I read you right, you are advocating for tolerance of a fundamentally intolerant faith. My tolerance doesn't extend that far.

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Post by shanwang »

du_bing wrote: post #367

China now has a big chance to make more influences on the whole world now, because USA will focus more on her own problems.

I'm surprised how many chinese support Trump, when I ask them why, one of the main reasons is that Trump will withdraw military support to Asia, Japan especially.

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Post by dcosson »

thewarrior wrote: post #44

It is possible to view this as an isolated event or a trend. Coming on the heels of BREXIT this is a trend. The attempts at building an interconnected globalised world are beginning to fail. A bunch of elites decided to create their own trans-national utopia unchecked by borders and dismissed all criticism as racist or bigoted. The globalisation project has been rejected by a majority of the population. Whether it is…

The people who voted on the single issue of losing jobs overseas are in for a rude awakening when they realize that almost all of these jobs will be automated even if they do come back to the US.

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Post by dcuthbertson »

thewarrior wrote: post #44

It is possible to view this as an isolated event or a trend. Coming on the heels of BREXIT this is a trend. The attempts at building an interconnected globalised world are beginning to fail. A bunch of elites decided to create their own trans-national utopia unchecked by borders and dismissed all criticism as racist or bigoted. The globalisation project has been rejected by a majority of the population. Whether it is…

Just a nitpick, but you mean "acceptance speech".

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Post by ihsw »

ctvo wrote: post #95

Grew up in the US. I'm a minority. I think this is the only time in my life I've ever felt like I didn't belong in America. Tonight a large portion of the country confirmed that the US is for whites. That it's not a melting pot. This demographic has been angry for a generation because they've felt like their culture, their socio-economic status and way of life is slipping away and this election (after 8 years of a bl…

How do you reconcile your post with exit polls indicating that 25-30% of the latino vote (for both genders) went to Trump?

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Post by Nadya »

mcv wrote: post #453
Nadya wrote: post #226

Surprisingly, namecalling doesn't sway votes. Calling people with genuine concerns about their country and well-being racist and sexist doesn't win you votes. Calling half the country Deplorable doesn't win you votes. It doesn't help that the DNC rigged the election against Bernie, Clinton isn't "relatable" and struggles with public image, Clinton was under FBI investigation, both Clintons have had years and years of…

> Surprisingly, namecalling doesn't sway votes. Looks like it did. Trump was easily the biggest name-caller, and got rewarded for it every time.

Sorry for the confusion, that line wasn't about the elects. It was about the people.

Yelling and screaming and threatening half of the country pushes them away - it doesn't bring them closer. I've had a lot more hate for being pro-trump and transexual from the "Never Trump" crowd than I did from the Trump crowd. Staggering amounts of hate.

Which is why I used the line: names which are only sometimes "earned". The names were used to try and persuade the public and to make people "not want to support Trump". All it did was turn huge parts of his crowd "silent". After all, "free speech is protected - but not without consequences!" and supporting Trump had its consequences. Look at how people treat Peter Thiel.

"But the flag is upside down! No real LGBT supports him!" - https://i1.someimage.com/4UaCCr7.jpg

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