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Re: Native virtualization for macOS

#32

I know gaming is not the main pull of this, but would this be better than parallels and fusion for gaming?

Nah, for that you really want to use BootCamp (native installed Windows). You can then use Parallels or VMWare Fusion to import it as a VM to be used inside of macOS or reboot fully to Windows to get full hardware performance.

Re: Native virtualization for macOS

#33
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/27/vmware_fusion_and_wo... Entire team got fired, but yes still being maintained from a new team of outsourced devs.

Whoa. Why in the world could that have happened? Article doesn't really go into any theories.

I would imagine sales numbers wouldn't justify a full US based development team in 'maintenance mode'.

Unfortunately, their annual reports don't breakout revenue by product: http://ir.vmware.com/overview/financial-information/annual-r...

The company probably feels they can do just as well (at a lower cost) with outsourced devs.

Re: Native virtualization for macOS

#34
post #28

I wonder what are its benefits in comparison to an OSS solution https://github.com/mist64/xhyve Here's the link to the previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9690846

My understanding is that xhyve isn't a "click and go" solution for most users.

Also, Veertu Desktop is now free: https://github.com/veertuinc/vdhh

Re: Native virtualization for macOS

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whoa. Why in the world could that have happened? Article doesn't really go into any theories.

I would imagine sales numbers wouldn't justify a full US based development team in 'maintenance mode'. Unfortunately, their annual reports don't breakout revenue by product: http://ir.vmware.com/overview/financial-information/annual-r... The company probably feels they can do just as well (at a lower cost) with outsourced devs.

Well that is working out horribly so far. Fusion 8.5.x is unusable on 10.12 due to a bug that causes an immediate crash when grabbing input control. I as well as many others reported the bug long ago but they have been unable to fix it. No surprise - the outsourced team is probably still scratching their heads trying to figure out what's what.

Re: Native virtualization for macOS

#37
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/27/vmware_fusion_and_wo... Entire team got fired, but yes still being maintained from a new team of outsourced devs.

Whoa. Why in the world could that have happened? Article doesn't really go into any theories.

Why would/should Dell care about virtualization on macOS?

Re: Native virtualization for macOS

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would imagine sales numbers wouldn't justify a full US based development team in 'maintenance mode'. Unfortunately, their annual reports don't breakout revenue by product: http://ir.vmware.com/overview/financial-information/annual-r... The company probably feels they can do just as well (at a lower cost) with outsourced devs.

Well that is working out horribly so far. Fusion 8.5.x is unusable on 10.12 due to a bug that causes an immediate crash when grabbing input control. I as well as many others reported the bug long ago but they have been unable to fix it. No surprise - the outsourced team is probably still scratching their heads trying to figure out what's what.

> Fusion 8.5.x is unusable on 10.12

Works for me and many others here, so there's more going on with your setup than just Fusion and Sierra not getting along.

Re: Native virtualization for macOS

#39

I know gaming is not the main pull of this, but would this be better than parallels and fusion for gaming?

I can recommend Wine (Staging, with the command stream patch) if you don't want to dual boot to run games. It's quite amazing how fast it is now. In some games you can have close to native performance.

Re: Native virtualization for macOS

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Found the same on a 2015 rMBP with max specs (Sierra, 16GB RAM, Core i7). It's much less performant with exactly the same VM as VirtualBox. In fact, it ate my entire CPU while it was running, even when the VM OS (Windows 10) settled down after startup. and was apparently running no CPU-intensive processes. It also crashed twice in the space of an hour, bringing down the entire VM, necessitating a restart. Not touchin…

Maybe it was because windows update was running in the background?

Could very well have been a factor. I gave up on it quickly. Repeatedly crashing renders it an unnecessary annoyance. VirtualBox works well enough, is stable and reliable, and Veertu doesn't distinguish itself enough to merit the pain in switching.
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