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Donald Trump is the president-elect of the U.S.

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Re: Donald Trump is the president-elect of the U.S.

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Post by qb45 »

staticelf wrote: post #617
thewarrior wrote: post #44

It is possible to view this as an isolated event or a trend. Coming on the heels of BREXIT this is a trend. The attempts at building an interconnected globalised world are beginning to fail. A bunch of elites decided to create their own trans-national utopia unchecked by borders and dismissed all criticism as racist or bigoted. The globalisation project has been rejected by a majority of the population. Whether it is…

I think you are making a great assessment and that is what fears me. I don't think your words are pretty useful on HackerNews folks in general. My thoughts as a Swede is that I don't actually give a fuck if your president is a turd. His view on immigrations doesn't scare me, his view on NATO doesn't really scare me. Trump say he is going to invest in fossile fuels THAT scares me A LOT. The future already looks super…

Sweden, seriously? You guys should be grateful ;)

And the biggest CO₂ emitter is China, not the US or Russia. Aactually, pulling industry back to the US could reduce global CO₂ output if efficiency was made more of a priority than in China due to higher labor and energy costs.

Re: Donald Trump is the president-elect of the U.S.

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Post by cousin_it »

ctvo wrote: post #95

Grew up in the US. I'm a minority. I think this is the only time in my life I've ever felt like I didn't belong in America. Tonight a large portion of the country confirmed that the US is for whites. That it's not a melting pot. This demographic has been angry for a generation because they've felt like their culture, their socio-economic status and way of life is slipping away and this election (after 8 years of a bl…

> Tonight a large portion of the country confirmed that the US is for whites. That it's not a melting pot.

That's a bit strange, I thought the right preferred assimilationism (melting pot) and the left preferred multiculturalism (salad bowl).

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Post by rullelito »

nostrademons wrote: post #327
thewarrior wrote: post #44

It is possible to view this as an isolated event or a trend. Coming on the heels of BREXIT this is a trend. The attempts at building an interconnected globalised world are beginning to fail. A bunch of elites decided to create their own trans-national utopia unchecked by borders and dismissed all criticism as racist or bigoted. The globalisation project has been rejected by a majority of the population. Whether it is…

Something I've been wondering about: We're seeing this pattern where the coasts of many countries are cosmopolitan and well-integrated into the world economy, but the interiors are very conservative and nationalistic. Scotland & London vs. Wales & the rest of Britain. The U.S. West Coast & Northeast vs. the Farm Belt, Rust Belt, and Mountain states. Croatia & Slovenia vs. the rest of Yugoslavia. The Baltic Republics…

> On one of my teams of 10 people at Google, we had immigrants from Iceland, England, Vietnam, China, Taiwan, and India, and I was the only native-born American citizen.

How is this an argument? I'm not from the US and I'm not very well read on the issue, but isn't it illegal immigrants they want to deport?

Who said that people from those countries couldn't be well educated and be fully functional Americans?

Also, I live in Malmö Sweden (coastal city) and the right-wing party here is strong, and we have lots of problem with immigrants, both legal and illegal.

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Post by einrealist »

hmate9 wrote: post #629
einrealist wrote: post #175

A President who considers Climate Change a hoax. I am now really afraid for mankind.

Only 70% of America believes that climate is changing. This will keep rising and soon people will focus on this. I think in 2 years Trump will acknowledge climate change too. He will have to.

The problem is that his political peers think, fossil energy is required to "make America great again". And unfortunately, they are right if its about the strategy that takes the least effort to achieve the economic goal.

That's in big contrast on what Clinton advertised with pushing renewable energy to a point, where it helps the economy.

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Post by maged07 »

thewarrior wrote: post #44

It is possible to view this as an isolated event or a trend. Coming on the heels of BREXIT this is a trend. The attempts at building an interconnected globalised world are beginning to fail. A bunch of elites decided to create their own trans-national utopia unchecked by borders and dismissed all criticism as racist or bigoted. The globalisation project has been rejected by a majority of the population. Whether it is…

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Post by hyperdunc »

tmptmp wrote: post #162

It's not surprising. The left-liberal camp was always turning a blind eye towards many important national issues and importantly about the issue of Islam. This reminds me a talk given by Sam Harris about the blunder being done by left-liberals regarding their dishonest/spineless treatment of Islam. His video titled "Sam Harris : Liberals failure to talk honestly about Islam is responsible for the rise of Trump" is ve…

Concerns about Islam were certainly a fairly major contributor to Trump's victory.

Many on the left - especially the so-called progressives - are blind to the danger of Islamism. To those who recognize and prioritize the problem, Trump was the obvious choice.

The charges of bigotry so often heard no longer work. Such labeling cannot suppress the fact that Islamist values (based on revelation) are incompatible with Western secular values, (which are based on evidence and reason).

Now if it turns out climate change is a bigger concern than creeping Islamism then we're in trouble.

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Post by crottypeter »

ericras wrote: post #242
ctvo wrote: post #95

Grew up in the US. I'm a minority. I think this is the only time in my life I've ever felt like I didn't belong in America. Tonight a large portion of the country confirmed that the US is for whites. That it's not a melting pot. This demographic has been angry for a generation because they've felt like their culture, their socio-economic status and way of life is slipping away and this election (after 8 years of a bl…

I'm a white Trump voter in flyover country. You belong in America as do all Americans. This was a push back against an out of touch corrupt elite in Washington and mass immigration. Not all immigration, but the massive increases of the past several decades. Yes, we do want to preserve the culture - not white culture but American culture. I fully expect that Trump will reach out and moderate. If not, there's always an…

I am struggling to understand how "corrupt elite" isn't a good description of Donald Trump?

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Post by newsreader »

thewarrior wrote: post #44

It is possible to view this as an isolated event or a trend. Coming on the heels of BREXIT this is a trend. The attempts at building an interconnected globalised world are beginning to fail. A bunch of elites decided to create their own trans-national utopia unchecked by borders and dismissed all criticism as racist or bigoted. The globalisation project has been rejected by a majority of the population. Whether it is…

> Also people seem to care a LOT about immigration and preserving their culture.

Thus the reason I voted against Trump. (I'm second generation US citizen -- Mexican grandparents)

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Post by mikeash »

_gfrc wrote: post #154

This is one of the issues that the social media bubble creates. We don't reach people that are different, neither do their voices reach us. We are all so connected nowadays and yet so separated.

Strange, it's been the opposite for me. Social media has revealed to me diverse political opinions from friends that I never would have known about otherwise.
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