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Donald Trump is the president-elect of the U.S.

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Post by DominikR »

oddx wrote: post #585
einr wrote: post #538

The Baltic Republics vs. the rest of the USSR. Just FYI, since I assume you're not very familiar with these countries: this kind of lumping together the so-called "Baltic Republics" with the "USSR" is generally very offensive to Estonians, Lithuanians and Latvians, who have nothing to do ethnically or culturally with Russia and generally view the Soviet era as very dark times. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were invad…

Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were parts of Russia for 300 years with small omissions. It is longer than the time of existence of the United States. So they have a lot cultural and ethnical similarity with Russia. But yes, they try to ignore it officially.

I believe Estonia and Latvia didn't even exist as a countries before the fall of the Soviet Union. Not even before the Russian Empire conquered these lands.

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Post by ajankovic »

WA wrote: post #547
nostromo wrote: post #51

Such a watershed moment. A few things strike me: * A Republican just won without being very religious and being wishy-washy on abortion. * The loser out-spent the winner by huge amounts. Does money really buy elections? Maybe, but not this one. * The rich abandoned Republicans, but many poor and working-class abandoned Democrats. [1] 1: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/elections/e...

What makes me curious: I always wondered if the president really has the power people perceive him to have, or if he's still influenced and bound by many people in the background. One can observe this with Obama. He made promises (like closing Guantanamo etc.), which he ultimately couldn't force through. But why? Possibly, because he isn't nearly as free in his decision making. Now, Trump claimed to do a lot of thing…

I think this video explains your observations correctly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs

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Post by neaanopri »

nathan_f77 wrote: post #413
smackay wrote: post #102

Jeez, everybody is all bent out of shape on this. The Republican establishment hate Trump nearly as much as they hate Clinton so with Republicans controlling The House and The Senate how much "damage" is President Trump going to be able to do. The really interesting part of all this was reading Scott Adams blog who proposed the idea that Trump is a master persuader (probably this is just a fancy name for populist). H…

> how much "damage" is President Trump going to be able to do. His rhetoric is already escalating the "war on Muslims". Electing him further confirms that Americans are the enemy of Islam. This is exactly what terrorists were trying to accomplish, and I think we can expect many more people to become radicalized. We can expect an increase in terrorist attacks. Walls won't save you. Tighter immigration control won't sa…

I'm very worried about preemptive announcements of how his presidency will fail. That's the sort of thing that makes people resent "elites" in the first place! I think that the best thing is for the liberals to marshal their political support while saying they'll consider bills trump proposes. Keep all the leverage they can while not signaling that they'll be out to sabotage trump. Saboteur government, like with the republicans under Obama, didn't work, and I hope the Democrats doesn't try it.

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Post by nostrademons »

DominikR wrote: post #573
einr wrote: post #538

The Baltic Republics vs. the rest of the USSR. Just FYI, since I assume you're not very familiar with these countries: this kind of lumping together the so-called "Baltic Republics" with the "USSR" is generally very offensive to Estonians, Lithuanians and Latvians, who have nothing to do ethnically or culturally with Russia and generally view the Soviet era as very dark times. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were invad…

He is highlighting the difference between these regions within the Soviet Union so what's the point of you comment other than signalling political correctness? I believe that this election signals if anything, a popular rejection of political correctness to the point where discussions can't be had anymore.

I was a little perplexed by the parent comment as well since I thought I was highlighting differences, but I upvoted it because, well, I learned something. He was polite in his correction, at least.

FWIW, coastal Democrats are equally offended with being lumped in with Trump supporters, Scots would probably be equally offended with being lumped in with English, and Croatians would be equally offended with being lumped in with Yugoslavians, so at least I'm an equal-opportunity offender.

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Post by Anderkent »

guessbest wrote: post #295
smackay wrote: post #102

Jeez, everybody is all bent out of shape on this. The Republican establishment hate Trump nearly as much as they hate Clinton so with Republicans controlling The House and The Senate how much "damage" is President Trump going to be able to do. The really interesting part of all this was reading Scott Adams blog who proposed the idea that Trump is a master persuader (probably this is just a fancy name for populist). H…

It is amazing that all the news organizations which are supposedly representing opposing views all lined up against him. You'd think if he was really a monster we'd know by now. Donald Trump is 70 years old, after all.

We do know, and we always have. He's a conman, always been.

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Post by tobltobs »

tmptmp wrote: post #162

It's not surprising. The left-liberal camp was always turning a blind eye towards many important national issues and importantly about the issue of Islam. This reminds me a talk given by Sam Harris about the blunder being done by left-liberals regarding their dishonest/spineless treatment of Islam. His video titled "Sam Harris : Liberals failure to talk honestly about Islam is responsible for the rise of Trump" is ve…

> The left-liberal camp was always turning a blind eye towards many important national issues and importantly about the issue of Islam.

First I wanted to say something about that "issues of Islam" might not be the biggest problems we have, but then I looked at your profile page and now I guess you would disagree.

The seeds of the brainwashing start to grow. I am scared about our future.

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Post by pjmorris »

Brakenshire wrote: post #469
harry8 wrote: post #245

Obama rode to power on change ticket and immediately abandoned it, wholesale. OK that didn't work so who else you got? Bernie, outsider with nothing, no money, no establishment friends, too old, been a democtat for 5 minutes and nearly got the democratic nomination and the dem establishment hate him and broke the rules fighting him. Donald has fame and got the republican nomination. Republican establishment hate him.…

> Obama rode to power on change ticket and immediately abandoned it, wholesale. He had two years where he had legislative power, and spent that time shoring up the US economy after the financial crisis and passing healthcare reform. Had he passed political reform instead he would have been accused of putting elite concerns before the practical things affecting ordinary people. One of the problems in the US seems to b…

> He had two years where he had legislative power, and spent that time shoring up the US economy after the financial crisis and passing healthcare reform.

Respectfully, he shored up the banks that had precipitated the crisis rather than the people most affected by the crisis. Some will call that virtuous and necessary, or 'deeply unfair' and necessary (Timothy Geithner), but the people who benefited are not the people who voted last night.

As for healthcare reform, he chose health insurance rather than health care. From the point of view of most of the people who voted last night, that means another bill to pay, not better healthcare.

He invested his power, to the degree he had it, more in keeping things the same than in the change people voted him in for.

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Post by daxorid »

wangii wrote: post #581
laichzeit0 wrote: post #232

So the LA times poll is the only poll that was right, from the beginning? Perhaps time to take their methodology seriously. Also, perhaps the extreme form of multiculturalism is a failed experiment, much like communism was a failed experiment. Time to wake up, ultra liberals.

don't understand why this comment gets down voted.

This is HN. Conspiracy theories of "rigging" or establishment collaboration, which are rife in discussions of polling accuracy, are downvoted.

No matter how true they turn out to be.

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