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Donald Trump is the president-elect of the U.S.

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Post by rimantas »

thewarrior wrote: post #44

It is possible to view this as an isolated event or a trend. Coming on the heels of BREXIT this is a trend. The attempts at building an interconnected globalised world are beginning to fail. A bunch of elites decided to create their own trans-national utopia unchecked by borders and dismissed all criticism as racist or bigoted. The globalisation project has been rejected by a majority of the population. Whether it is…

Or the simpler view: this is result of lack of critical thinking or any thinking skills at all. And a tendency to shoot themselves in the foot just in spite.

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Post by oska »

nostrademons wrote: post #327
thewarrior wrote: post #44

It is possible to view this as an isolated event or a trend. Coming on the heels of BREXIT this is a trend. The attempts at building an interconnected globalised world are beginning to fail. A bunch of elites decided to create their own trans-national utopia unchecked by borders and dismissed all criticism as racist or bigoted. The globalisation project has been rejected by a majority of the population. Whether it is…

Something I've been wondering about: We're seeing this pattern where the coasts of many countries are cosmopolitan and well-integrated into the world economy, but the interiors are very conservative and nationalistic. Scotland & London vs. Wales & the rest of Britain. The U.S. West Coast & Northeast vs. the Farm Belt, Rust Belt, and Mountain states. Croatia & Slovenia vs. the rest of Yugoslavia. The Baltic Republics…

> What sort of organizing principle would the world have then? I haven't seen anything historically like that

The Hanseatic League was a federation of free-trading market towns along the North Sea and Baltic Sea coastlines. [1]

A number of people have suggested that cities (and federations of cities) may become more of a focus as a political unit in the medium term over the nation state.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanseatic_League

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Post by navinsylvester »

pavanred wrote: post #467
navinsylvester wrote: post #145

Saddened to see the world heading towards a very unsavory place. The Brexit effect is going to take us backward and backward. We are going to see more hatred being spread :(. How did we come down to this place?. #1 Americans policy in the middle east is a total washout. The repercussions of it is starting to rear its head. #2 The rigidity of the staunch followers of religions in following the rule of the land. I mean…

Just curious, why is the concept of absolute majority not used a criteria? For example, to win an election in India, you require an absolute majority (if there are 3 candidates and A wins 40%, B wins 30% and C wins 30%, A is still not a winner because a total of 60% voted against A). I see it in this election and in the Brexit vote, a major decision is based on a simple majority with <5% difference.

But US is basically a dominant two party system. In India it's not the case though.

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Post by beefman »

thewarrior wrote: post #44

It is possible to view this as an isolated event or a trend. Coming on the heels of BREXIT this is a trend. The attempts at building an interconnected globalised world are beginning to fail. A bunch of elites decided to create their own trans-national utopia unchecked by borders and dismissed all criticism as racist or bigoted. The globalisation project has been rejected by a majority of the population. Whether it is…

> understand their concerns and try to assuage them

You can't do both at the same time.

For starters, the "theory of competitive advantage" is incredibly weak. But it's pretty clear that trade represents a small constant factor in the GDP level, which is used up once all markets have sufficient liquidity. It can explain only a small fraction of economic growth since the Industrial Revolution. And it is not necessarily a Pareto improvement with respect to nations -- which is why protectionism has been a fact of global trade for 4,000 years.

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Post by cturner »

sjwright wrote: post #182
dibstern wrote: post #147

So the world's most liveable city is Melbourne, Australia, we're very far from Trump, much further than Canada, VC firms and tech startups are more than welcome to come on over and enjoy the best quality of life on offer! Hehe

Seriously. Even our McDonalds is several classes above the greasy, cheap muck they sell in the USA.

Can confirm. A rite of passage for students in Adelaide is to drive to the big Mcdonalds on the nw outskirts of Melbourne, and then turn around and drive home again.

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Post by dredmorbius »

Florin_Andrei wrote: post #395
Beltiras wrote: post #180

Can we stop referring to the wisdom of crowds now?

> Can we stop referring to the wisdom of crowds now? The crowds are "wise" on the most base, trivial issues. Now give them world-spanning complexity and crowds turn into complete idiots.

Humans are anti-ants.

Ants collectively are unintelligent. Collectively, the solve complex problems.

Humans individually are intelligent. Collectively, they create complex problems.

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Post by ternaryoperator »

henrikschroder wrote: post #128
bdrool wrote: post #32

This event and Brexit are proof that you cannot shame people into voting how you want. Calling them bigots over and over just galvanizes them if anything.

It's more of a case that us upper-middle class liberal elites think we are shaming this segment of the population when we are calling them bigots and racists and stupid and uninformed and homophobic and hicks and white trash, because those are horrible things that we don't want to be called. But a large part of the population don't share that sentiment, they're not shamed, they don't care that you're screaming "RACIS…

This is probably the best analysis of Trump's victory that I've read so far.

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Post by thecrazyone »

pnathan wrote: post #339
rafinha wrote: post #106

Bernie Sanders could have been the president, but Hillary cheated in the primaries.

Nah, he had no chance of building a coalition outside of the white urban liberal types. anyway, he's a socialist.

I don't understand how socialist the way he describes it is a bad word. People just don't listen these days.
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