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Donald Trump is the president-elect of the U.S.

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Post by johncolanduoni »

woodpanel wrote: post #183
nostromo wrote: post #51

Such a watershed moment. A few things strike me: * A Republican just won without being very religious and being wishy-washy on abortion. * The loser out-spent the winner by huge amounts. Does money really buy elections? Maybe, but not this one. * The rich abandoned Republicans, but many poor and working-class abandoned Democrats. [1] 1: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/elections/e...

Yep. Been following the coverage since the primaries and though I don't know who I would have voted for, seeing the self righteous intelligentia being so blatantly wrong on the election outcome gives me an embarrassing satisfaction. None of the established media did even try to keep a disguise of neutrality. Not in the US, not the BBC or here in Germany. You can be against Trump all you want, but where has "journalis…

I'll give the foreign media a pass since Trump was doing a lot of finger pointing at foreign countries and their citizens. The domestic media on the other hand...

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Post by mcv »

nabla9 wrote: post #359

Trump is not an isolated event. Populism is growing everywhere - Italy: Silvio Berlusconi era (- 2011) - Philippines: Rodrigo Duterte - Hungary: right wing populist party in charge - Poland: populist Law and Justice party in charge - Britain: Brexit, Boris Johnson - Turkey: Erogan

And right-wing populism has also been growing stronger in countries where they're not yet in power. Geert Wilders, Front National, Alternative fur Deutschland... I don't like the direction the world is taking.

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Post by nathan_f77 »

smackay wrote: post #102

Jeez, everybody is all bent out of shape on this. The Republican establishment hate Trump nearly as much as they hate Clinton so with Republicans controlling The House and The Senate how much "damage" is President Trump going to be able to do. The really interesting part of all this was reading Scott Adams blog who proposed the idea that Trump is a master persuader (probably this is just a fancy name for populist). H…

> how much "damage" is President Trump going to be able to do.

His rhetoric is already escalating the "war on Muslims". Electing him further confirms that Americans are the enemy of Islam. This is exactly what terrorists were trying to accomplish, and I think we can expect many more people to become radicalized. We can expect an increase in terrorist attacks. Walls won't save you. Tighter immigration control won't save you. The damage was done today, and in the months leading up to the election. I am legitimately scared to visit countries such as Indonesia and Malaysia. I was already scared about Turkey, and the situation there will only get worse. I'm worried for my relatives and friends who live there.

Donald Trump doesn't trust the science behind climate change. He doesn't believe that it's real. He would like to dismantle the EPA and increase our dependence on coal and oil. Even if I ignore his deep character flaws, business failures, and sexual assault accusations, this single issue is a dealbreaker for me. Luckily we have many other people working on clean energy, like everything that Elon Musk is doing. But how can this be coming from the President of the United States?

People say that Donald Trump is a smart man. Smart people don't say things like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU2p6YakNJg

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Post by pasta »

To me this shows how hard it is to come up with good solutions for problems.

I think both Trump and Clinton know what the problems in the US are. The difference is: Trump is naming all problems but doesn't provide real solutions, Clinton is only naming problems she has a solution for.

That's why the working class votes for Trump because he is the only one who is talking about their problems.

The same is happening here in The Netherlands. Politics doesn't likes to talk about problems with immigration. Wilders does. That's why he is very popular. But just like Trump his solutions are unrealistic.

This is also why I don't think a lot is going to change in the US. The unrealistic solutions are what they are: unrealistic. So the Mexican wall is never going to be build.

The only sad outcome is that this populistic talk is dividing the nation.

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Post by r00fus »

nostrademons wrote: post #327
thewarrior wrote: post #44

It is possible to view this as an isolated event or a trend. Coming on the heels of BREXIT this is a trend. The attempts at building an interconnected globalised world are beginning to fail. A bunch of elites decided to create their own trans-national utopia unchecked by borders and dismissed all criticism as racist or bigoted. The globalisation project has been rejected by a majority of the population. Whether it is…

Something I've been wondering about: We're seeing this pattern where the coasts of many countries are cosmopolitan and well-integrated into the world economy, but the interiors are very conservative and nationalistic. Scotland & London vs. Wales & the rest of Britain. The U.S. West Coast & Northeast vs. the Farm Belt, Rust Belt, and Mountain states. Croatia & Slovenia vs. the rest of Yugoslavia. The Baltic Republics…

The US civil war was fought in part because the southern states threatened to secede.

Do you think the US would let California leave? Can CA defend her own borders (especially against the rest of the US)?

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Post by muad »

smackay wrote: post #102

Jeez, everybody is all bent out of shape on this. The Republican establishment hate Trump nearly as much as they hate Clinton so with Republicans controlling The House and The Senate how much "damage" is President Trump going to be able to do. The really interesting part of all this was reading Scott Adams blog who proposed the idea that Trump is a master persuader (probably this is just a fancy name for populist). H…

I have been following his blog for about 6 months because it seemed like he was a pretty rational and lucid trump supporter.

I have a newfound respect for him because he literally called every step of this election.

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Post by mikeyouse »

tmptmp wrote: post #162

It's not surprising. The left-liberal camp was always turning a blind eye towards many important national issues and importantly about the issue of Islam. This reminds me a talk given by Sam Harris about the blunder being done by left-liberals regarding their dishonest/spineless treatment of Islam. His video titled "Sam Harris : Liberals failure to talk honestly about Islam is responsible for the rise of Trump" is ve…

It seems strange to blame the left for not having a stronger response against Islam instead of the right for drumming up this insane hatred of Muslim people..

I have no doubt that this issue cost many swing state votes but how many Wisconsinites have ever even seen a Muslim? It's such an insane boogeyman created for this very purpose.

I listen to Sam Harris, agree with many of his points but there are like 10,000 Syrians in the US - many of whom are Christians, all of whom were fleeing ISIS. Shame on Republicans for using them to score votes.

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Post by throwaway5752 »

gnipgnip wrote: post #239
ctvo wrote: post #95

Grew up in the US. I'm a minority. I think this is the only time in my life I've ever felt like I didn't belong in America. Tonight a large portion of the country confirmed that the US is for whites. That it's not a melting pot. This demographic has been angry for a generation because they've felt like their culture, their socio-economic status and way of life is slipping away and this election (after 8 years of a bl…

> Grew up in the US. I'm a minority. I think this is the only time in my life I've ever felt like I didn't belong in America. It's not that simple. There was a large section of the Indian-American community that voted Trump; presumably this was also true of "non-minority" minorities like assorted Asians and Jews.

Did he outperform the 70-30 Clinton support that polls were showing for Indian, 75-20 from Jewish, and 70-20 non-Indian Asian peoples that support that polls had him at? He won because of non-collection educated Caucasians, with whom he outperformed models by 15% points.
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