Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 8:49 AM UTC

tomp wrote: post #27

hal9000xp wrote: post #10

I actually think there is a possibility that it could be easier to get into US as highly skilled migrant under Trump presidency because of his anti-immigrant polities. If he raises a minimum income bar for H1B to 150K and keep the same cap, then it would be much less qualified applicants for H1B visas and therefore there would not be cap overflow with annoying lottery process. Of course, I can't predict what Trump is…

> which would be very stupid move Why? Because the salaries of US-based programmers would rise? Because companies would be more motivated to train locals instead of importing foreigners?

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Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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Post by majewsky » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 8:50 AM UTC

ClassyJacket wrote: post #29

sjm wrote: post #5

I'd guess it will be a harder sell to get software developers in Europe, Australia, NZ, etc. to move to the US.

Eh... The Prime Minister of Australia is actively working against the technology industry here, and he actually states that preventing Australians from having better internet access is his biggest accomplishment.

Is there any (hopefully hilarious) argument behind this statement?

Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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Post by thowar2 » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 8:51 AM UTC

Normal_gaussian wrote: post #7

sjm wrote: post #5

I'd guess it will be a harder sell to get software developers in Europe, Australia, NZ, etc. to move to the US.

Or easier. Hillary is a face of western corruption to much of the world. So long as Trump delegates the tech stuff properly and doesn't do anything too unusual the moral choice of the US should be easier.

Not true here in Asia.

People love Obama and they see Hillary as an extension of his presidency.

People are afraid of Trump. He reminds them of the corrupt, self interested, dictator types, which are rampant in this region.

Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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Post by lern_too_spel » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 8:52 AM UTC

onion2k wrote: post #15

Normal_gaussian wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or easier. Hillary is a face of western corruption to much of the world. So long as Trump delegates the tech stuff properly and doesn't do anything too unusual the moral choice of the US should be easier.

Hillary is a face of western corruption to much of the world. That's not even slightly true here in the UK.

The UK is part of the west. He's talking about the face of corruption from Russia's point of view.

Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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Post by hueving » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 8:52 AM UTC

android521 wrote: post #20

hueving wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well you wouldn't want a developer that made snap judgments based on presidential elects anyway. Remember that the number of people that have voted for Trump only represent about 1/5th of the population.

That's a lot...

A higher percentage of people in Australia voted for the liberal party.[1]

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_federal_election,_2...

Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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Post by Abdur91 » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 8:53 AM UTC

edblarney wrote: post #12

I predict that not that much will change WRT valley issues. His bombastic statements were populist, I don't see anything on the policy agenda that seems it will hit the Valley in any meaningful way. Even if there are some trade-barbs with China ... the Valley doesn't export much there ...

yeah,true

Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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Post by robBlair5234 » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 8:54 AM UTC

ClassyJacket wrote: post #29

sjm wrote: post #5

I'd guess it will be a harder sell to get software developers in Europe, Australia, NZ, etc. to move to the US.

Eh... The Prime Minister of Australia is actively working against the technology industry here, and he actually states that preventing Australians from having better internet access is his biggest accomplishment.

ClassyJacket - you are a drongo.

So is Turnbull, but it doesn't excuse you.

Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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Post by ryanhuff » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 8:54 AM UTC

nathan_f77 wrote: post #22

xupybd wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NZ dev here. Trump getting in doesn't worry me I'd love to work in the US. I think it's all been overblown.

I'm also a dev from NZ, and I worked in the US a few years ago. Honestly it's not all it's cracked up to be, and I wouldn't choose to go back there. Trump didn't factor into that decision, but now it's even less enticing.

In what city did you work?

Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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Post by imh » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 8:56 AM UTC

Complete uninformed speculation: The stock market doesn't seem to like him. If that continues, the big markets may be less appealing as investments, interest rates may stay low, and so VC may be a (relatively) more appealing place to throw money. That would fuel money towards more startups, but it's a wildly uneducated guess.

Re: Ask HN: POTUS Donald Trump; What this means to Silicon Valley

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Post by TAForObvReasons » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 8:56 AM UTC

hal9000xp wrote: post #10

I actually think there is a possibility that it could be easier to get into US as highly skilled migrant under Trump presidency because of his anti-immigrant polities. If he raises a minimum income bar for H1B to 150K and keep the same cap, then it would be much less qualified applicants for H1B visas and therefore there would not be cap overflow with annoying lottery process. Of course, I can't predict what Trump is…

H1B allows for work experience to substitute for formal college degrees. It's easier to demonstrate competency with the degree but it is not compulsory:

> The nature of the specific duties is so specialized and complex that the knowledge required to perform the duties is usually associated with the attainment of a bachelor's or higher degree.

> education, specialized training, and/or progressively responsible experience that is equivalent to the completion of a U.S. bachelor’s or higher degree in the specialty occupation, and having recognition of expertise in the specialty.

https://www.uscis.gov/eir/visa-guide/h-1b-specialty-occupati...