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Re: Canada's immigration website crashes on election night

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Post by davidw »

ajmurmann wrote: post #40
davidw wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Things mostly have not become bad enough to move. I think Trump will be more Berlusconi than Mussolini. I hope so at least. I also wonder what it'd take to make us grab what we can and get out. If things start heading that way, it's a decision you really, really don't want to put off too long.

I can't believe this is the first time I've seen anyone compare Trump to Berlusconi. It's spot on.

I hope so. Berlusconi "only" contributed to Italy's economy stagnating for 20 years and loss of standing in the eyes of the world. He wasn't really a fascist, much as some on the left tried to label him one.

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Post by nkassis »

hawngyeedun wrote: post #38
baby wrote: post #3

People are not going to move. After every single election in France people say they will move to the US, or to germany, or to... I've never seen anyone moved anywhere. ps: parts of my family moved out of Hong Kong when it became Chinese again. But that was quite a different situation.

Those who have not lived outside of the US (or NA) don't realize how hard life is for the rest of the world; most will just move right back within months. Been there myself. Life ain't easy out there. Edit - A little bit of context here: I am speaking as someone who was born and raised in a developing country rife with racial and political problems. My point is, a lot of people who are yelling about immigrating due t…

Canada and the US are virtually equivalent in most respect for jobs, standard of living etc... I'm from Canada, and now live in the US, I lived in north Florida and have seen people struggle incredibly compared to anyone I can think of in Canada. Even the poorest in Canada can at least see a doctor when they really need it. I know many people who are about to lose their only option to healthcare if ACA is repelled. They'd be better off in Canada.

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Post by nikcub »

colmvp wrote: post #5

Canada seems appealing to Americans until you realize you could be earning more in the U.S. while spending less on a bunch of other things. Don't get me wrong, I love living in Canada and I mostly don't miss living in Bay Area, but most of my friends lament the fact that their salary and career opportunities are a joke compared to what they could have in the U.S. (even adjusting for cost of living).

It did happen with Vietnam draft evaders. There is an entire generation of former Americans born in Australia and Canada: like Mel Gibson and Stewart Butterfield of Flickr/Slack.

Also with those fleeing communism as refugees or asylum seekers - i'm born to one of those.

I don't doubt that some people will move, but it won't be to the extent of previous migrations. You have a better chance of changing and fixing the USA from the inside.

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Post by sanswork »

jgh wrote: post #48
xienze wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Waltz over the border" implies illegal immigration. Which we kinda have a soft spot for in US.

I would wager it's easier to waltz over the US-Canada border than the US-Mexico border if you were so inclined.

You can do it accidentally in a few towns and I've crossed the US-CA border into the states before where we had to wake up the border guard.

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Post by prawn »

baby wrote: post #3

People are not going to move. After every single election in France people say they will move to the US, or to germany, or to... I've never seen anyone moved anywhere. ps: parts of my family moved out of Hong Kong when it became Chinese again. But that was quite a different situation.

I know of a family (2A+3C) who were unhappy with the direction the UK were taking, and so moved to Sweden.

Obviously it's more said than done, but it happens and I admire those who follow through.

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Post by tuna-piano »

M_Grey wrote: post #15
colmvp wrote: post #5

Canada seems appealing to Americans until you realize you could be earning more in the U.S. while spending less on a bunch of other things. Don't get me wrong, I love living in Canada and I mostly don't miss living in Bay Area, but most of my friends lament the fact that their salary and career opportunities are a joke compared to what they could have in the U.S. (even adjusting for cost of living).

Canada would be an odd choice for many reasons, but is probably attractive for the combination of proximity, and cultural/linguistic similarities. For me, I've been looking at Ireland, Denmark, or the Netherlands for a while, and I'd say they're looking far more attractive today than yesterday. Besides, money isn't everything. There is something to be said for not having to deal with the insane evangelicals, bitter u…

If you didn't read the newspaper, how many of the negative things you mentioned would actually impact your life? Would you even know who was president for the last 4 (or the next 4) based on the impacts to your life? I'd guess not.

Just live your life and be happy, vote when you can but don't let what you don't control make you sad.

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Post by shellyfornally »

Tomte wrote: post #24

If you're afraid of the US President, moving abroad isn't helpful. His domestic power is severely limited and checks-n-balanced. Granted, that only counts for fear of a semi-tyrannical president, not necessarily for economic concerns.

One of the things that could make this the most important presidential election in history is that there could be an unprecendented number of Supreme Court nominations in the next 4-8 years. That, to me, is what makes this such an important election since the SC has, in my opinion, been stepping beyond its power in the last 10 years so the utility of nomination becomes even more important.

Other than that, you're right, House and Senate control is far more important. But don't underestimate these god-awful presidential signing statements that have become so popular. Appointed cabinet positions can make quite a difference depending on the domain. There are other ways to side-step the separation of powers.

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Post by retreatguru »

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #32
rpeden wrote: post #10

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As it stands now, I doubt that many American programmers would be willing to take the pay cut they'd have to accept if they came to work here. I like it here, and I'm happy with what I make, but when you factor in the exchange rate, a typical US developer would take a huge salary haircut working here; probably 40-50%.

Sure, but (depending on the area, at least) you can live very comfortably on 50% of what a west-coast US developer makes. Techies tend to forget that our pay rates are way above the national average.

I live in Nelson BC where the powder skiing is legendary. You can get a very nice 3 bedroom house for USD$ 350k. Granted it's a small town but for the right people it's an incredible place with a small srtarrup scene.
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