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Re: Live Presidential Forecast

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Why isn't the president decided by the percentage of votes? Seems to me, there are a lot voters whose vote essentially are useless? I kind of understand the house and senate being more regional representation, but the president kind of represents all Americans, no?

You are not alone; many Americans have the same question.

Re: Live Presidential Forecast

#92
post #69

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Jitter is a visualization of uncertainty. Rather than display a range, it displays a needle moving within that range. It's only misleading developers, who will think that data is being streamed rather than fetched once. Other than that it's a clever (and yes, entertaining) way of displaying margins of error. Can I offer that, of all the things in news and dataviz to shit on, this isn't one of them? I mean, really, an…

You're being too generous... this visualization misleads everyone who knows how to read an analog gauge. Your car's speedometer does not jiggle around to represent its own imprecision.

Other types of analogue gauges jiggle around.

Re: Live Presidential Forecast

#93
post #88

Why isn't the president decided by the percentage of votes? Seems to me, there are a lot voters whose vote essentially are useless? I kind of understand the house and senate being more regional representation, but the president kind of represents all Americans, no?

It was originally designed to stop stupid people from throwing the election. We'll see tonight if it still works.

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the necks got off their sundecks it seems

This sort of rhetoric is precisely what inspires people to vote for Trump.

Among other things... There's real dissatisfaction among the working class which inspired people to support both Bernie and Trump, and to vote against the status quo.

Re: Live Presidential Forecast

#95
post #88

Why isn't the president decided by the percentage of votes? Seems to me, there are a lot voters whose vote essentially are useless? I kind of understand the house and senate being more regional representation, but the president kind of represents all Americans, no?

It was originally designed to stop stupid people from throwing the election. We'll see tonight if it still works.

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Re: Live Presidential Forecast

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post #88

Why isn't the president decided by the percentage of votes? Seems to me, there are a lot voters whose vote essentially are useless? I kind of understand the house and senate being more regional representation, but the president kind of represents all Americans, no?

The United States is/was a collection of independent state governments. At one point, many state governments selected the electoral college representatives from their states. Until it was amended, states governments chose their senators.

There are political and historical reasons for having the system work this way, much like how the ordering of primaries is a contentious and complicated arrangement.

Re: Live Presidential Forecast

#97
Aside from the obviously fake jittering gauges, it seems like whenever I reset the page the pointer goes to about 68% and then after 5-10 seconds jumps to 77%. Not sure if it's caching a number and then updating or supposed to make me stay on the page.

Re: Live Presidential Forecast

#98
post #88

Why isn't the president decided by the percentage of votes? Seems to me, there are a lot voters whose vote essentially are useless? I kind of understand the house and senate being more regional representation, but the president kind of represents all Americans, no?

Yeah, the entire system is screwed up by this insane electoral college. But majority-rule is insane even on a popular vote. The only good way to elect consensus candidates who serve everyone well is to implement score voting http://scorevoting.net/

Re: Live Presidential Forecast

#99
post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sort of rhetoric is precisely what inspires people to vote for Trump.

Among other things... There's real dissatisfaction among the working class which inspired people to support both Bernie and Trump, and to vote against the status quo.

I'm not satisfied being in the top decile of historical human well-being, let's shake things up and take a shot at some reversion to the mean.

Re: Live Presidential Forecast

#100
post #28
post #8

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I just checked. They gauges moving around is definitely random. The updates are done with a "president.json" file, fetched every 15 seconds, but the timestamp in the json data only changes every 30-180 seconds. So all of the movement is just random jitter to make it engaging. Maybe a bit disingenuous. (Note: I first thought they might be using websockets, but no WS connection is made on the page. Only a ajax fetch of…

I'd venture further to say it's a perversion of "news" for a news site to be injecting garbage into the data for entertainment purposes.

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