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Re: Ask HN: How do I protect my parents from the internet?

#151
One way would be installing some good GNU/Linux (Mint is good for windows users, or Debian Stretch with GNOME classic mode).

And thus your dad can't install any software he just downloaded from some random website. And the GNOME sofware center is great in Debian Stretch (to be released though, sorry).

create scripts using zenity as a GUI for youtube-dl (and any other command you wish him to run)

Also, I would recommend uBlock to Adblockplus.

Re: Ask HN: How do I protect my parents from the internet?

#152

I was really hoping for a discussion on how to keep parents from watching videos about the healing properties of crystals and government chemtrail conspiracies... ...but to answer your question perhaps you can get your parents a Chromebook? I'm not sure what photo editing options exist on the platform, but hopefully it's an obscure enough platform to avoid the majority of malware.

Related. Conspiracy theory websites are also very dangerous places to browse. My grandfather loves conspiracy theories, mostly the ones related to free energy machines, and he told me some sites that he went to. I was curious so I visited a few of them (using Firefox + AdBlock). This was the first time I actually got a virus just by browsing a site. It used an exploit that bypassed the browser download popup security mechanism, and it just installed itself. I legitimately got owned, and I was pissed because that just does not happen to me. Now I understand why my grandfather's computer is unusable nowadays.

Re: Ask HN: How do I protect my parents from the internet?

#153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I'm being dumb, but couldn't you just lock down the level of user access on the machine? As another option, assuming you can use Linux, could go down the route of using Tails or another live distro: https://tails.boum.org/

Your not being dumb, but.... Locking down the machines is fine if you don't get any privilege exploits that take over the machine. Plus, this puts the machine in a known, good state every time we reboot or have a new user. Cannot use Linux (I would use PC-BSD given our BSD infrastructure).

>Locking down the machines is fine if you don't get any privilege exploits that take over the machine

but in that case deepfreeze isn't going to save you either.

privilege exploits = SYSTEM access = kernel mode access = ability to bypass deep freeze (by circumventing their IO driver)

Re: Ask HN: How do I protect my parents from the internet?

#154
I've got 2 computer-illiterate parents and I can confirm the following works very well:

1) Create a user account in Windows that is NOT an administrator account, that way they can't install things without an admin username and password. The PCs admin account should be password protected.

2) Enable the highest level of windows alerts (those "this program wants to make changes or modifications to this PC, cancel or allow" messages). Teach your parents to always click no/cancel/do not allow.

3) Ad blockers like uBlock. Remove shortcuts to, or uninstall Internet Explorer.

4) Use software like DeepFreeze http://www.faronics.com/products/deep-freeze/standard/ it restores the computer to a snapshot you saved every time you restart it. No matter what they mess up or install or screw up, it'll be fixed with a restart.

Re: Ask HN: How do I protect my parents from the internet?

#155
I am going to answer that pretty much nothing will save your parents from the internet.

While I agree a chromebook won't get owned your parents will still likely get phished. I have no idea how to solve that.

http://blog.greggman.com/blog/getting-phished/

http://blog.greggman.com/blog/how_to_detect_e_mail_scams__ph...

Re: Ask HN: How do I protect my parents from the internet?

#156
post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your not being dumb, but.... Locking down the machines is fine if you don't get any privilege exploits that take over the machine. Plus, this puts the machine in a known, good state every time we reboot or have a new user. Cannot use Linux (I would use PC-BSD given our BSD infrastructure).

>Locking down the machines is fine if you don't get any privilege exploits that take over the machine but in that case deepfreeze isn't going to save you either. privilege exploits = SYSTEM access = kernel mode access = ability to bypass deep freeze (by circumventing their IO driver)

So far it has been one layer too far. plus I don't have to worry about any saves to the HD.

Re: Ask HN: How do I protect my parents from the internet?

#157
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A virtual machine might be a solution, just leave it full screen for them when you leave home. I've given up trying to educate my parents best practice with pc's, it doesn't seem to work.

That's what I've always thought, haven't tried it with my parents. Idea is, set up a vm, snap shot it, have their save folder somewhere outside of the VM, and then if they manage to mess up the VM, just restore the snapshot.

Honestly, it is when I am trying to teach my parents how to use computers do I realize how annoying computers are. I mean, some of the simplest things we take for granted are pretty dumb if you have to explain it to someone.

Re: Ask HN: How do I protect my parents from the internet?

#158

I think all the people recommending Chromebooks or Linux are entirely missing the point. Those are only viable alternatives within small niche uses for people who literally only use email and facebook. It's the 80/20 fallacy. 80% of the people only use 20% of the features, but for each person in that 80% they use a slightly different 20% subset. It's the same here. Most people only use a very small subset of the inte…

Even if it doesn't work for everything, a backup computer in the house might still be useful? If you get a Chromebook, they will have a browser to use when the other one gets messed up and you can't fix it right away.

Re: Ask HN: How do I protect my parents from the internet?

#160

I think all the people recommending Chromebooks or Linux are entirely missing the point. Those are only viable alternatives within small niche uses for people who literally only use email and facebook. It's the 80/20 fallacy. 80% of the people only use 20% of the features, but for each person in that 80% they use a slightly different 20% subset. It's the same here. Most people only use a very small subset of the inte…

How about a Mac? MS products like Word/Excel runs on macOS. Usually other software/plugin do support macOS.
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