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Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by Scuds »

yoodenvranx wrote: post #66
cableshaft wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What gets interesting is what games do they put on the SNES? ...building a list of 30 such games would take hours to trim down. Took me ten minutes. Although if I knew it weren't super unlikely, I would sneak Uniracers and EVO: Search for Eden onto this list. Also, yes I know there are a ton more great games for SNES. It was an awesome system. But these seem like good candidates. * Chrono Trigger * Donkey Kong Coun…

You missed a Bomberman game in your list. We used to play Super Bomberman 5 (?) on an emulator and we had tons of fun.

While (relatively)lots of attention has been given to Saturn Bomberman, Bomberman 5 is a grossly underrated game especially in the battle mode. Emulation let us look at an entirely undiscovered world of games that never left the Japanese market.

Thing is, Konami have swallowed Hudson Soft, and then dragged it into the ocean after they've left the games market. So many classic IPs from the 80's and 90's.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by ajford »

daveloyall wrote: post #109
huangc10 wrote: post #61

As much as I want to support Nintendo, I have to admit I've been playing NES and SNES with roms on the computer since early 2000s. My parents wouldn't buy me any game consoles or handheld devices so the computer was the only way to go. RetroPie and other hw apps would be fun to set up, but it's just so easy with emulator and roms that anyone can do it within a few mins. If you want the nostalgia, just download the em…

I've always had lower end hardware than my peers (still do, except at work!) so maybe you had a different experience than I did... But here goes my experience: Emulators are much harder to play than the original console because milliseconds matter! Maybe not so much for puzzle games (like the Zelda franchise)[0] but certainly for action titles... I don't know much about this "RetroPie", but it sounds like a raspberry…

One thing to consider is this NES Classic Edition appears to be an emulator. It consists of an ARM processor and some flash memory, so it's not going to get you that cycle accurate emulation any better than the current leading emulators (other than any improvements brought about by internal knowledge held by Nintendo).

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by JoshTriplett »

briHass wrote: post #148
comex wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone too young to have played FF7 when it first came out, I recently tried to play the PC port, but I just couldn't get used to the graphics... I don't know of any other famous game that's that ugly. Anything sprite-based looks just fine to me, and when it comes to 3D, even Nintendo's N64 classics, while they take some getting used to, aren't as absurdly blocky-looking as FF7. Maybe I'll try again some time, bu…

I actually have just, over the past few months, been playing all the Final Fantasy/Square games that I never experienced. I played them in the following order: FF4 (USA FF2), FF6 (USA FF3), Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, FF5, and FF7. I just started FF9. I have to agree that FF7/FF9 was a huge adjustment from a graphics perspective. The 3D-ish characters are ugly and the camera angle/distance makes certain areas fee…

For old SNES-era RPGs, if you haven't already played them, I'd also suggest Earthbound and Seiken Densetsu 3. (And, in a completely different style, Super Mario RPG; it's Nintendo/Square, and it feels very Square-ish.)

> The SNES era really stands out to me as the high-water mark for JRPGs

Agreed.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

ihuman wrote: post #25
jsheard wrote: post #5

They forgot to mention one nice detail - the included controller can also be paired with a Wii or Wii U by plugging it into a Wii Remotes nunchuck port. This means you can use the authentic controller to play the full Wii Virtual Console catalog, which covers many games not included with the NES Classic.

I am assuming that's why the cable is so short. If it was long enough to connect it to the console, it would be awkwardly long when connecting it to a controller you place next to you.

If only there were a way to make a short cable longer when needed. If they ever invent it I'll be able to mow my whole lawn.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by disease »

fiatjaf wrote: post #70

The fact is that no one would ever buy a "Playstation Classic".

I'd be interested in Metal Gear Solid and Symphony of the Night but little else.

It's funny how some consoles or eras of gaming have aged better than others. I think the best Dreamcast and N64 games hold up pretty well despite being from roughly the same early 3D era. Maybe it's just the old '95% of everything is crap' rule.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by jerf »

briHass wrote: post #148
comex wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone too young to have played FF7 when it first came out, I recently tried to play the PC port, but I just couldn't get used to the graphics... I don't know of any other famous game that's that ugly. Anything sprite-based looks just fine to me, and when it comes to 3D, even Nintendo's N64 classics, while they take some getting used to, aren't as absurdly blocky-looking as FF7. Maybe I'll try again some time, bu…

I actually have just, over the past few months, been playing all the Final Fantasy/Square games that I never experienced. I played them in the following order: FF4 (USA FF2), FF6 (USA FF3), Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, FF5, and FF7. I just started FF9. I have to agree that FF7/FF9 was a huge adjustment from a graphics perspective. The 3D-ish characters are ugly and the camera angle/distance makes certain areas fee…

"The SNES era really stands out to me as the high-water mark for JRPGs"

I'd have to put the high-water mark at the PS2. The PS1 era was confused, but they mostly figured things out again for the PS2.

That said, the genre remains alive and well anyhow. Once everybody but Square accepted that you don't need to try to make every single one a graphical extravaganza, they picked back up again. (I don't know what I'd call the flagship series nowadays but I can tell you it is not Final Fantasy anymore.)

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

yoodenvranx wrote: post #66
cableshaft wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What gets interesting is what games do they put on the SNES? ...building a list of 30 such games would take hours to trim down. Took me ten minutes. Although if I knew it weren't super unlikely, I would sneak Uniracers and EVO: Search for Eden onto this list. Also, yes I know there are a ton more great games for SNES. It was an awesome system. But these seem like good candidates. * Chrono Trigger * Donkey Kong Coun…

You missed a Bomberman game in your list. We used to play Super Bomberman 5 (?) on an emulator and we had tons of fun.

In case you missed MMO version http://bombermine.com/.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by jerf »

disease wrote: post #156
fiatjaf wrote: post #70

The fact is that no one would ever buy a "Playstation Classic".

I'd be interested in Metal Gear Solid and Symphony of the Night but little else. It's funny how some consoles or eras of gaming have aged better than others. I think the best Dreamcast and N64 games hold up pretty well despite being from roughly the same early 3D era. Maybe it's just the old '95% of everything is crap' rule.

The Dreamcast is significantly more powerful than a PS1. It's much closer to the PS2. IIRC it's actually better than a PS2 on a couple of specific specs, though the PS2 is generally more powerful.

At the risk of insulting some people's nostalgia, I never thought the PS1 looked good. I was in my late teens at the time and didn't have any consoles, but I remember seeing the commercials on TV. Problem is, the PS1 could theoretically do 3D, but it didn't really do it very well, so a lot of games would do 15fps in order to put more graphics on the screen. But they still didn't look very good, and even back then I could tell that 15fps wasn't really enough to play a game.

It is true that it looked better at the time than it does now, but even at the time a lot of us were underwhelmed.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by ihuman »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #155
ihuman wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am assuming that's why the cable is so short. If it was long enough to connect it to the console, it would be awkwardly long when connecting it to a controller you place next to you.

If only there were a way to make a short cable longer when needed. If they ever invent it I'll be able to mow my whole lawn.

There is one. Time to mow the lawn before the rest of the leaves fall.

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