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Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by serge2k »

OrwellianChild wrote: post #76
serge2k wrote: post #60

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Plus you get added bonus of not giving the money to the people who made the games. I do use emulation, but they are making an effort to sell the games.

I get it. It's a compromise, since I owned all those original systems back in the day. This is the same problem faced by other media during the transition to digital... The NES Classic isn't upgradable, can't add games, won't do SNES, nevermind N64. Similar efforts to play these old classics on 3DS would have cost $100 for the console and then $30+ per game for games I've already purchased, which are 30 years old . T…

> $30+ per game

Drastically overstating the price of virtual console games. For example, http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/super-mario-bros-3-3ds

edit:

Ocarina of Time is 10 dollars on virtual console.

The 3ds remake might be $30, but it is an updated version of the game. OoT is also < 20 years old, not 30.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by sqeaky »

runevault wrote: post #84
ghayes wrote: post #54

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People still love the Gamecube controllers for Smash Brothers that 1) Nintendo still makes new Gamecube controllers [0], and 2) they created a port to allow you to play Wii U with old Gamecube controllers [1]. [0] https://store.nintendo.com/ng3/us/po/browse/productDetailCol... [1] https://store.nintendo.com/ng3/us/po/browse/productDetailCol...

Smash players are crazy :). I don't know that I've heard of anyone else who uses those.

Am smash player, can confirm... crazy.

I bought a console for this game and never even looked at the other titles nor care too. I spent who knows how much on just controllers. I selected my couch with smash bros in mind.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by loco5niner »

criveros wrote: post #94
alanfalcon wrote: post #80

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Some people have more respect for intellectual property rights than others.

What rights? They don't make the consoles or games anymore.

The existence of the NES Classic Edition says otherwise.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by loco5niner »

sqeaky wrote: post #96
drawkbox wrote: post #74

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It is easy to ROM is but the appeal here the look, retro style and the controller. On top of that the ease for most people not wanting to setup anything. For Super Mario Bros 1-3 and Zelda alone this is worth the price. And now here is your chance to get that console you never got back in the day.

Also the cost. Many times when a product is re-released the company putting it out tries to get every penny they can from you. This could have cost double the price and many would still buy it, but it costs about the launch price of a single AAA title. If you this thing with an extra controller that is like $70 before tax. I have spent more than that on a decent mouse. It might be more expensive than playing ROMs if…

>This is the intelligent way to fight piracy. Release often, with high quality and cheap.

Many good examples of this: Netflix, Steam, and now Nintendo :-)

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by cableshaft »

bane wrote: post #90
cableshaft wrote: post #47

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> What gets interesting is what games do they put on the SNES? ...building a list of 30 such games would take hours to trim down. Took me ten minutes. Although if I knew it weren't super unlikely, I would sneak Uniracers and EVO: Search for Eden onto this list. Also, yes I know there are a ton more great games for SNES. It was an awesome system. But these seem like good candidates. * Chrono Trigger * Donkey Kong Coun…

A list like this without Axelay, Contra and Cybernator is missing three of the greatest SNES games of all time. wait I forgot Ninja Warriors, Metal Warriors, Super Turrican (and Turrican 2), Skyblazer, Rendering Ranger R2, Hagane, Actraiser, the rest of the Mega Man X series, the Bomberman series, Captain Commando. Crap, I think we're nearing 60.

I love Metal Warriors, I just don't think it's high profile enough that Nintendo would likely include it. Cybernator would be more likely. I considered Axelay and ActRaiser but never really played those games so didn't have a strong opinion on them.

Hagane is super rare and virtually unknown in the US except as an underappreciated gem in Youtube videos.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by aluminussoma »

Good luck getting your hands on one. Nintendo appears to be botching the supply chain (as usual!). Stores know this will be one of the hottest products of the season but my contacts tell me they are getting very little information on when they will get more after the first day sellout and how many.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by cableshaft »

runevault wrote: post #89
cableshaft wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What gets interesting is what games do they put on the SNES? ...building a list of 30 such games would take hours to trim down. Took me ten minutes. Although if I knew it weren't super unlikely, I would sneak Uniracers and EVO: Search for Eden onto this list. Also, yes I know there are a ton more great games for SNES. It was an awesome system. But these seem like good candidates. * Chrono Trigger * Donkey Kong Coun…

The fact you included Tetris attack makes me automatically really like you. Finding 30 games is easy, for me getting it to be the optimal 30 games would be harder. But then my super ideal never happen dream list would include stuff like Final Fantasy 5 and Seitken Sendetsu 3 (sequel to Secret of Mana that never got an official english translation during the SNES era if ever).

Tetris Attack is one of my favorite games ever, and coincidentally helped get me my first job in the video game industry. I was asked what my favorite game was, and I said "Right now, probably Tetris Attack." I didn't realize I was speaking to people who used to work for Bulletproof Software, and worked on Tetris for Gameboy.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by daveloyall »

huangc10 wrote: post #61

As much as I want to support Nintendo, I have to admit I've been playing NES and SNES with roms on the computer since early 2000s. My parents wouldn't buy me any game consoles or handheld devices so the computer was the only way to go. RetroPie and other hw apps would be fun to set up, but it's just so easy with emulator and roms that anyone can do it within a few mins. If you want the nostalgia, just download the em…

I've always had lower end hardware than my peers (still do, except at work!) so maybe you had a different experience than I did... But here goes my experience:

Emulators are much harder to play than the original console because milliseconds matter! Maybe not so much for puzzle games (like the Zelda franchise)[0] but certainly for action titles...

I don't know much about this "RetroPie", but it sounds like a raspberry pi, probably running an emulator on Linux. That's not hardware.

On NES hardware, your controller had a very real, physical connection to logic gates on the CPU (which happened to have a very real, physical connection to the electrons being shot towards your face by your TV!)

When using an old Nintendo, (or SNES, or N64, but only for SOME games) you got to experience your own limitations. The machine was faster than you, it never got hand cramps, etc. But it clearly wasn't smarter, it wasn't BETTER. People had beaten these games... So could you. You just have to try harder! You'd find yourself doing funny little things like holding the controller differently and trying to just shake your button finger, not actually raise and lower it, to fire as fast as possible...

When you finally did beat a game, you beat the exact same game, the same experience that other players faced, down to the millisecond.

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0: Sure, there is some skill, but quite frequently the goal is to unlock some door or get some item. I never had any trouble playing Zelda games on emulators.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by jason_slack »

What I find odd is that no retailer seems to have pre-orders. Game Stop says "Unavailable" and the same on Amazon. Nintendo doesn't have it listed to pre-order on its site either.

I wonder who will carry these? I live in a small town that ironically has 2 Game Stops so I should be able to snag on on 11/11 if they are carrying it.

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