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Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suppressed supply has long been in Nintendo's playbook

An astounding inability to get a product to market in any sort of reasonable numbers.

Back in the day it was intentional.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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> Notice something about the title? Yeah, it isn’t Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out!! The game is exactly the same, but you fight a palette-swapped Tyson at the end — they made him white and changed his name to Mr. Dream. Sad, really, but how often did you even get that far? Turns out this is a great party game. What a shame :( I wonder how much extra money it would have cost them for the licensing.

The NES did have Punch Out cartridges with Mr Dream. Mike Tyson was only part of a 3-year licensing deal Nintendo decided not to renew[1]. So all cartridges sold after 1990 had Mr Dream. Also, it wasn't just a palette swap (but it was similar) [2][3]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch-Out!!_(NES)#Punch-Out.21... [2] https://static1.squarespace.com/static/50d0fc0ae4b0c75e54db0... [3] http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/db528cfd3fffe07...

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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post #10

The timing couldn't be better. My daughter is turning 7 just before Xmas and this is going under the tree!

Cool that your daughter is willing to play retro games (I assume), I tried to get my teenage nephews to play FF7 and as soon as they saw the blocky graphics they noped the f out. Sigh.

The funny thing is, FF7 (and other early 3d games) aged far worse than early 2d games. There's a resurgence in indie platformers in the style of 2d games, while most of the 3d games from the N64/Playstation era just look outdated.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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post #36
post #9

I hope this sells well as I would love to see a SNES/Famicon Classic Edition. That was the console of my childhood :)

The NES Classics hardware is such massive overkill for NES emulation that I suspect they designed the platform to be reused in a future SNES Classic. http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/11/04/nes-classic-more-pow...

Interesting. I knew it would be good enough to do SNES games but I am quite surprised it is actually more powerful than the 3DS and Wii. Then again the Wii is 10 years old so yeah it makes sense. Wow that 10 years went fast.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

#46
post #9

I hope this sells well as I would love to see a SNES/Famicon Classic Edition. That was the console of my childhood :)

This thing has better hardware specs than the 3DS and the Wii. It'd be nice if this sold well and they then offered a SNES controller + games, then N64, and so on, so the only games it can't run are on the Wii U or Switch. (Edit: beaten to it.. ah well.)

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

#47

Only negative thing I've read about this is that the controllers need a longer cable (yes, you can buy extension cables but they're $10 per controller, on a $60 system that is pricey). Aside from that it is a great value proposition. A lot of games, good hardware, and updated to work via standard HDMI/USB. I'm hoping that if this is a runaway success that Nintendo will consider doing a SNES, N64, and Gamecube version…

If this does even half as well as I expect, they would be insane not to do an SNES one. N64 and Gamecube are more interesting as, while both platforms had some good games, 1) the controllers were absurd, and 2) they don't have the same nostalgia feel with a wider audience that the first 2 Nintendo consoles do. What gets interesting is what games do they put on the SNES? I would dearly love to see stuff like FF 3/6 an…

> What gets interesting is what games do they put on the SNES? ...building a list of 30 such games would take hours to trim down.

Took me ten minutes. Although if I knew it weren't super unlikely, I would sneak Uniracers and EVO: Search for Eden onto this list. Also, yes I know there are a ton more great games for SNES. It was an awesome system. But these seem like good candidates.

* Chrono Trigger * Donkey Kong Country * Donkey Kong Country 2 * Earthbound * F-Zero * Final Fight * Final Fantasy 2 * Final Fantasy 3 * Harvest Moon * Illusion of Gaia * Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past * Mega Man X * Killer Instinct * NBA Jam * Pilotwings * Secret of Mana * Sim City * Star Fox * Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo * Super Castlevania IV * Super Ghouls n' Ghosts * Super Mario Kart * Super Mario World * Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island * Super Metroid * Super Punch-Out!!! * Super R-Type 3 * Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 4: Turtles in Time * Tetris Attack * Zombies Ate My Neighbors

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Would anybody else much rather get a raspberry pi and $30 in supplies to make it themself?

I recently did this. I bought a case, a controller, an SD card, and other stuff detailed in Jeff Atwood's Retropie blog post. I hooked all this up to my TV, installed retropie, FTP'd ROMs over, and... The gamepad I'm using works in emulation station, but doesn't work when I'm in the ROM. apparently it's due to thi issue: https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/issues/564 I still haven't fixed it because I can't br…

Yeah I tried doing a whole RetroPie route about a year and a half ago using wireless Xbox 360 controllers. Remapping controls for different consoles was a huge pain in the ass at the time. I'm sure it has improved since then, but I don't have the patience right now in case it doesn't work as smoothly as I would like.

It did however play PS1 games using a RPi 2 almost perfectly using the original 240p resolution of the games.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

#49
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cool that your daughter is willing to play retro games (I assume), I tried to get my teenage nephews to play FF7 and as soon as they saw the blocky graphics they noped the f out. Sigh.

The funny thing is, FF7 (and other early 3d games) aged far worse than early 2d games. There's a resurgence in indie platformers in the style of 2d games, while most of the 3d games from the N64/Playstation era just look outdated.

As someone too young to have played FF7 when it first came out, I recently tried to play the PC port, but I just couldn't get used to the graphics... I don't know of any other famous game that's that ugly. Anything sprite-based looks just fine to me, and when it comes to 3D, even Nintendo's N64 classics, while they take some getting used to, aren't as absurdly blocky-looking as FF7. Maybe I'll try again some time, but I suspect I'll end up waiting for the remake.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this does even half as well as I expect, they would be insane not to do an SNES one. N64 and Gamecube are more interesting as, while both platforms had some good games, 1) the controllers were absurd, and 2) they don't have the same nostalgia feel with a wider audience that the first 2 Nintendo consoles do. What gets interesting is what games do they put on the SNES? I would dearly love to see stuff like FF 3/6 an…

> What gets interesting is what games do they put on the SNES? ...building a list of 30 such games would take hours to trim down. Took me ten minutes. Although if I knew it weren't super unlikely, I would sneak Uniracers and EVO: Search for Eden onto this list. Also, yes I know there are a ton more great games for SNES. It was an awesome system. But these seem like good candidates. * Chrono Trigger * Donkey Kong Coun…

I like those choices, especially Harvest Moon.
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