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India's demonetisation of Rs. 500 and Rs. 1000 notes

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Re: India's demonetisation of Rs. 500 and Rs. 1000 notes

#101

It is hardly going to fix the black money problem. Rich people have so many employees to do the bank run for them. Within the next month, you will see a huge spike in real estate market. People with black money will dump it in the real estate market. (If you are not an Indian, this is how it works. You buy an apartment/home/building for the amount X. But you declare it to the government that you bought it for X/10. T…

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Re: India's demonetisation of Rs. 500 and Rs. 1000 notes

#102
post #71

Regardless of how this might help with "black money" (which seems to be a bit of an overhyped political bogeyman), any attempt to decrease the value or purview of cash is bad news for human rights. When all legal money is in government-controlled banks, you open up the door to all sorts of nastiness including political account freezes, government theft of funds, forced negative interest rates, etc. I personally have…

> Regardless of how this might help with "black money" (which seems to be a bit of an overhyped political bogeyman)

Why is it a bogeyman? Have you researched the situation in India? It's very different from the U.S.

> I have a dim view of any government action that makes the use of cash less convenient, less liquid, or less legal.

The government will introduce new 500 and 2000 Rs notes.

> forced negative interest rates

How is it forced? You can still keep cash under your matress.

> In light of this news, I imagine many Indians will stop trusting Rupees as much and might just start preferring to transact in USD or something.

What? This is way too far fetched.

Re: India's demonetisation of Rs. 500 and Rs. 1000 notes

#103

This is the boldest and probably most brilliant move by any Indian politician since liberalization of economy in 1990s. Having said that, another way of understanding this is that as of today both old 500 Rs and 1000 Rs notes have been "probabilistically devalued". For anyone in middle class and below the value essentially remains the same (other than a small devaluation due to effort required to get them exchanged),…

I agree, this is a good first move to get black money that is stored as cash out and taxed. Some forms that still remain are: * Gold * Money funneled into "agricultural income" (which is tax free) * Large properties in metros that are bought and left empty (which raises rates sky-high for ordinary middle class people trying to buy a house there) However, this move is brilliant in that it removes cash as an intermedia…

If one is buying gold then they need to pay tax for that amount. Because shopkeeper can't hide that money without tax. Shopkeepers knows this money is gonna be useless soon.

Re: India's demonetisation of Rs. 500 and Rs. 1000 notes

#106
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Changing $100 notes to $200 notes will open a new black market for converting 2 x $100 notes to $200. I think just removing the $100 note is safer.

2K notes are not just piece of paper, it does have NGC (Nano GPS Chip) by which income tax department can track the location and exact amount have stashed nearby that location. So sending that amount to some other country or keeping that money underground will be the most foolish thing one can do.

Is this Nano GPS Chip for real? How does it work and how much does it cost to make such currency?

Re: India's demonetisation of Rs. 500 and Rs. 1000 notes

#108
post #79

This is the boldest and probably most brilliant move by any Indian politician since liberalization of economy in 1990s. Having said that, another way of understanding this is that as of today both old 500 Rs and 1000 Rs notes have been "probabilistically devalued". For anyone in middle class and below the value essentially remains the same (other than a small devaluation due to effort required to get them exchanged),…

Isn't this a trick that will only work once? Wont the people who are taking advantage of black money start using a different store of value that isn't controlled by the Indian government like foreign currency or high value commodities?

Those things are more cumbersome to use than local currency. At some point it becomes cheaper to just pay your taxes.

Re: India's demonetisation of Rs. 500 and Rs. 1000 notes

#109
post #78
post #42

All black money and hoarders will cry to sleep today.

Or quickly buy real estate/gold/farm land above market value. The seller declares the money and pays the tax, the buyer successfully legalized it.

A lot of that will probably be subject to corporation tax. Government still gets a nice boost.
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