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Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

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This is something that my wife and I thought a lot about before we moved out here, and we still work hard to keep costs very lean and mean. So, I'll write a book for ya. I've lived in Minneapolis, Chicago, LA, Providence, Fresno and now the Bay Area. And, it's the most expensive city we've lived in. There is usually a gentleman's competition ongoing as to what area is more expensive to live in: Bay Area or New York C…

Thanks for the long write-up, I'm thinking of moving out west as well (from South Carolina of all places), and San Jose is on my radar. I'm a 25yo single male used to living very cheaply, so those numbers are helpful. I'd be living out there doing contract work for people in NC, which is probably backwards from the optimal setup...

Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

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I'm a professional apartment manager in the Silicon Valley area. We currently (Feb 2008) have 2-bed/1-bath apartments renting for $1500/mo and 1-bed/1-bath apartments renting for $1100/mo. Water and power typically runs in the $100/person-month range.

Can you be more specific on location?

Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

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I'm a professional apartment manager in the Silicon Valley area. We currently (Feb 2008) have 2-bed/1-bath apartments renting for $1500/mo and 1-bed/1-bath apartments renting for $1100/mo. Water and power typically runs in the $100/person-month range.

a link to the 2 bedroom?

we are moving out in april/may and we are looking for a 2 bedroom.

Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

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when i was living in san jose in a... what those artsy-sounding things called... it was about $1000 a month. rent was $700, everything else like utilities added up to about $200. starbucks/jamba juice every day added up to $100 >.i lived in the outskirts of SJ i believe. ebay was a couple blocks away. i miss the bay area :(

Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

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Living in San Francisco:

$1000 is the starting price for rent on a decent studio and can get as high as you want, depending on the neighborhood.

Food can be cheap enough if you shop at Trader Joe's and eat out at Tommy's Joynt. (Say, $300 a month.) I like to eat out more often and spend $600-$700 on food each month for me and my girlfriend. We don't go out drinking very often, but when we do, it's easily $100 a night for several drinks, pizza, and a cab ride home.

I don't own a car, but when I did it was $150/month for a spot in a garage and $40 for parking tickets. Public transportation is great and the city has a strong bicycle advocacy group, so that's what I choose.

I highly recommend living in the city if you aren't bothered by crowds, and there are plenty of software companies here. (For anyone that is a PHP and JavaScript pro, I can pass on a resume to the hiring manager here at Trulia.)

Let me know if you have any questions!

Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

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So we have been doing some exploring after another investor in the midwest told us to just move to the valley for the networking alone. he may be right.

after a few visits, i can say that living in SF, and playing in SF is just fine without a car. SF will be expensive like living in the loop in Chicago, or in some parts of Manhattan, heck thats what you pay for being in the center of it. If you are coming from the suburbs you are in for a shock if you move to SF.

if you live out of SF, you will want a car/ or even better a moped or bike. public transportation is nice, but it adds up and is time consuming waiting for stuff. what i love about it is it runs late, so a night out can be had without driving into SF.

right now in MKE i am paying $770 a month as part of a 2 bedroom that is $1540 a month. For that we have 2 bedrooms, 1800sqft, a backyard, and a garage. In the valley i expect to have much less, but it still seems like i can get a 2 bedroom for ~1500-~1800 a month, or a 3 bedroom for 2100-3000 a month. i think rent is actually fairly reasonable considering the average median incomes and the number of people with degrees.

starbucks internet will cost you $40 a month, where in MKE i get cafe wifi all over the city for $22 a month. i might have to give in and get Att uverse internet in the valley so we can roam into a starbucks for free.

As far as food goes, i found that palo alto, and just outside of san jose are craazy expensive. in MKE a quiznos sandwich and drink might cost you 8$ but in that area, we paid $12-$13 50% more. I found food in SF cheaper. I do not know about the grocery stores, but its pretty hard to meet people for lunch and or coffee in your home, so I think Food may have its larges sticker shock.

as for location, we found that 90% of the events that we want to go to are in the sunnyvale, palo alto, and north/west san jose area. so it makes more sense for us to live there, well unless we are going to date...... there seems to be a lot of lovely ladies in Downtown SF on a daily basis, in fact most of them will smile back. It's kinda rare for a city to have that quality. So I would rank SF very high on women being approachable there.

Our plan for our 4 guys (1 of which is married) is to get a 2 bedroom with a great couch for the 3rd guy, and a when the married guy is in town, he can have a hidden mattress or an inflatable one. When it makes sense, we will get 1 more apartment come fall 08 or something.

Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

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My wife and I pay $1700/month for a two-bedroom house in Mountain View. I pay $300 each six months to insure an awesome Z3 that I never get to use (I take the train every day - $150/month for a pass between Mountain View and San Francisco). Internet is $60/month, Electric is usually about $50/month. I'm embarrassed to say I don't know how much we spend on food... I would guess about $400/month, but that could be wron…

Electric is significantly more if you keep multiple computers on 24/7.

Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

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Here's the only answer you need: It doesn't matter.

You can make it work. You're a motivated developer/entrepreneur. You'll be fine. Work whichever variables (roommates, location, dining, etc.) you want to meet your budget, but this town is geared to you. You might spend a lot, but you'll make a lot too.

Re: Ask Hacker News: Cost of living in Silicon Valley

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I would recommend east bay if you do not mind the commute / public transportation; Rents are definitely cheaper on the east side; Though if you would like to be near palo alto and do not necessarily mind a tough neighborhood, try East Palo Alto (The difference crossing over the 101 on University Ave. is pretty drastic, as are the rents)

I've lived in downtown San Jose and Berkeley - SJ is cheaper, but I prefer Berkeley because of the weather, college atmosphere and good looking women (mostly ;)

Cost of lving (I lived alone) SJ rent for 1 bedroom: $1,350 // Berkeley rent for 2 bedroom: $1,850 (Both included all utilities except electricity)

Food: Dont skimp on food or toilet paper! ;) I like to cook, so I prepared my own food for the most part to keep costs relatively cheap - ex: cooking a nice cut of tri-tip with veggies can last a few days, etc. $200-250/mo

Internets: ~$70/mo for static IP

Extracurricular: $250/mo

Gas/Transportation: Variable depending on whether you drive or bus / Bart

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