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Re: Ask HN: Have you ever thought of leaving programming for something else?

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I left programming to get into application security, and I love it. There is still some programming and a lot of reading code, but it's a million times more enjoyable than writing endless REST APIs for me.

Seems to me you didn't actually left programming :)

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever thought of leaving programming for something else?

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I currently work in a good environment where I'm appreciated and paid well. Not many people in the world can say that, so I have a lot to be thankful for. Programming has done good by me. But I don't love it. Alan Kay is right, it's like building "an Egyptian pyramid with millions of bricks piled on top of each other, with no structural integrity, but just done by brute force and thousands of slaves". There's no eleg…

> smart but artless

So, it's just not for you. You fail to see art in it, That happens, it's ok. Maybe you need to think about gradually moving to the movie business, they need programming too, you know.

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Computational cognitive science. I'm in the process of going back to studying. My employer knows this, as well as most my friends and peers. I plan to spend the next two scholar years (starting in 2017) to take a master in cognitive science. I have worked for 3 years in web development since graduating and have enough money stashed to make the transition. I'll likely write a lot less code, and more maths and english.…

Too bad modern AI developments have absolutely nothing to do with "cognitive science"

Not true. Geoffrey Hinton is only interested in cognitive science (he said in a speech I heard that he thinks it's delightful that there are practical applications that lead Google to pay for his research, but he doesn't care at all about them, only about understanding the brain), and Rich Sutton started there and continues to actively follow and think about cognition.

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Yes. My goal is to reach $10 million net worth (so I am no longer dependant on income to survive - yes, I can live more cheaply, but my favorite cities happen to be the most expensive). Then, I would retire from the industry and focus on doing computer generated art and sculpture. That would let me stay in software, but let me be creative (I don't want 'creatives' to design thing, as if they were a different species…

$10 million sound a lot to me. How do you plan to reach you goal if you don't mind me asking?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bet the OP can make loads more money in VFX than going back and doing some junior programming role, hence I'm with him.

I would question the word "loads" ;] Sups are usually earning around 150-200 CAD p/y, seniors 100-130. I may be wrong with the numbers though.

what is "sups"?

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever thought of leaving programming for something else?

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As we were driving to lunch one Friday, another programmer and I saw a backhoe in use, and started favorably comparing 'backhoe operator' to 'programmer': you get to work with heavy equipment, you can see the results of your work, when the day is done you go home and don't have to think about it. We laughed and cringed, as backhoe operator sounded like a better job by the time we were done. For me, I can't do anythin…

Wish I could remember where I saw it (reddit?) but just last week I read a comment from a backhoe operator that said basically, "it's fun for the first four or five hours then it's hours of tedium making sure you don't kill someone who's stupid enough to stand in the wrong spot."

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post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too bad modern AI developments have absolutely nothing to do with "cognitive science"

Not true. Geoffrey Hinton is only interested in cognitive science (he said in a speech I heard that he thinks it's delightful that there are practical applications that lead Google to pay for his research, but he doesn't care at all about them, only about understanding the brain), and Rich Sutton started there and continues to actively follow and think about cognition.

To what it relates to neuroscience I agree, but in the end it's mostly mathematical models that don't connect much to (physical) reality

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever thought of leaving programming for something else?

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I currently work in a good environment where I'm appreciated and paid well. Not many people in the world can say that, so I have a lot to be thankful for. Programming has done good by me. But I don't love it. Alan Kay is right, it's like building "an Egyptian pyramid with millions of bricks piled on top of each other, with no structural integrity, but just done by brute force and thousands of slaves". There's no eleg…

> It's an Asperger profession; smart but artless. Your point was good, it didn't need this poor stereotyping.

Get over it man.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever thought of leaving programming for something else?

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I currently work in a good environment where I'm appreciated and paid well. Not many people in the world can say that, so I have a lot to be thankful for. Programming has done good by me. But I don't love it. Alan Kay is right, it's like building "an Egyptian pyramid with millions of bricks piled on top of each other, with no structural integrity, but just done by brute force and thousands of slaves". There's no eleg…

> I would prefer, if I could retire, to make short films and maybe to write plays. But I can't retire yet. So I'll push stones. It pays well.

Please don't stay because of the pay. You won't look back in 25 years and say "I'm so glad I bought a new iPhone in 2016, but didn't do the things I wanted to in life"

The last company I worked for was full of people only staying because retirement was "only" 10-15 years away, and they were not a healthy/happy lot.

You'd be giving up your life "now" in the hopes of a good life "then", which is insanity.

I have left Software twice now to pursue my goals - the first time I spent two years driving Alaska->Argentina more-or-less on vacation, and right now I'm spending two years driving around Africa. I'm exploring my passions while on the road for writing, photograph, videography, languages, etc. etc. I have less money now, and a lot more happiness.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever thought of leaving programming for something else?

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I absolutely want to be done with coding by the age of 40. Coding is a young man's game. It'll always be a passion and hobby of mine, but it wouldn't fulfill me to still be primarily writing code for someone else's company.

I was an athlete in a former life that allowed himself to get woefully out of shape. I went on a health kick a couple of years ago, got into better shape than I was in college. Now I do personal training on the side, just finished my first triathlon, and am now training to compete in American Ninja Warrior. I really wish American Gladiators was still around though as I would've much rather preferred that.

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