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IAB Statement on IPv6

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Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

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Post by wfn »

vertex-four wrote: post #20
Arnt wrote: post #5

I noticed the other day that IPv6 growth is slowing down, as Google measures it. Its access share used to double every ten or eleven months, now it doubles more slowly, and seems likely to reach 20% only in 2017 instead of this year, and if it goes on as in the recent months, 30% in 2018 instead of in 2017. At a guess, many of most competent ISPs have done their thing and now we're seeing the more sluggish middle. Or…

In the UK, only one big(-ish) ISP supports IPv6, and 2 significantly smaller ones. BT claim to be pushing it out next year, but they still have a large number of older consumer-end router/modem devices which can't be updated for it, so it'll take another half a decade for those devices to fail and be replaced. Once BT have pushed it out, many of the companies that depend on them for varying things should be able to b…

BTnet (BT's higher-end leased line etc. services) do support native IPv6 fwiw, but when I spoke to them (this was in Scotland) they said no customers ask for IPv6 to be enabled, and it's not enabled by default. (But if you ask them they'll do it no problem - verified to be true.:) But the situation is different with all that older consumer equipment as you say...

Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

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Post by vishbar »

executesorder66 wrote: post #3

I check the google stats[0] on ipv6 adoption every few months. Last time I checked it was barely 9% an now it's on 15% ! I would have never thought we'd get this far this fast. Looks like the switchover is actually going to happen. [0] https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html

Really interesting how it spikes on weekends! I wonder if this is because more home broadband connections are ipv6-enabled compared to businesses?

Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

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Post by kalleboo »

Arnt wrote: post #5

I noticed the other day that IPv6 growth is slowing down, as Google measures it. Its access share used to double every ten or eleven months, now it doubles more slowly, and seems likely to reach 20% only in 2017 instead of this year, and if it goes on as in the recent months, 30% in 2018 instead of in 2017. At a guess, many of most competent ISPs have done their thing and now we're seeing the more sluggish middle. Or…

Here in Japan, the largest consumer fiber wholesale network (NTT) "supports" IPv6, but you need a separate, $100 router that talks PPPoEv6 since none of the common consumer routers (including the one they provision you with) seem to support it.

I also haven't been able to get PPPoEv6 working in macOS.

Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

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Post by lmm »

avar wrote: post #19
executesorder66 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://ipv6wallofshame.com/ Baidu, Twitter, Instagram and Reddit are also major players who could make a huge difference.

I work for one of the companies on that wall of shame. I wonder to what extent it has the reverse of the intended effect. "Oh so not even Amazon, Twitter or GitHub gives a crap about IPv6? Why should we?".

It seems to have worked for python 3.

Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

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Post by jnbiche »

daurnimator wrote: post #12
Arnt wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still plausible, e.g. if their spam filters, court order handling and reporting expect to see IPv4 client addresses in their input and/or databases.

Cloudflare have a workaround for that too! https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/202494830-P...

You know, Cloudflare gets a lot of shit around here for being a centralizing entity in a decentralized Internet (sometimes justifiably), but they've done a hell of a lot to push forward needed changes in the Internet infrastructure. Often at little benefit to themselves.

Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

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Post by kalleboo »

AndrewDucker wrote: post #14
daurnimator wrote: post #2

IMO the major thing holding back IPv6 on the web is amazon. A huge proportion of services are hosted on AWS, and the lack of IPv6 addressing of instances cannot be forgiven.

Amazon seem to be slowly getting there: https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2016/10/ipv6-supp...

Wow, how did I miss this, CloudFront getting IPv6 support is huge!

Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

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Post by liveoneggs »

ryao wrote: post #4
daurnimator wrote: post #2

IMO the major thing holding back IPv6 on the web is amazon. A huge proportion of services are hosted on AWS, and the lack of IPv6 addressing of instances cannot be forgiven.

Amazon and github are the two major offenders.

as fastly goes, so goes github

Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

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Post by jgrahamc »

jnbiche wrote: post #25
daurnimator wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cloudflare have a workaround for that too! https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/202494830-P...

You know, Cloudflare gets a lot of shit around here for being a centralizing entity in a decentralized Internet (sometimes justifiably), but they've done a hell of a lot to push forward needed changes in the Internet infrastructure. Often at little benefit to themselves.

Here's our motivation: https://blog.cloudflare.com/evenly-distributed-future/

Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

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Post by executesorder66 »

vishbar wrote: post #22
executesorder66 wrote: post #3

I check the google stats[0] on ipv6 adoption every few months. Last time I checked it was barely 9% an now it's on 15% ! I would have never thought we'd get this far this fast. Looks like the switchover is actually going to happen. [0] https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html

Really interesting how it spikes on weekends! I wonder if this is because more home broadband connections are ipv6-enabled compared to businesses?

I guess it's hobbyists who's normal internet connection is ipv4, but on the weekend they have time to dick around with ipv6 devices and connections.
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