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IAB Statement on IPv6

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Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

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Amazon and github are the two major offenders.

https://ipv6wallofshame.com/ Baidu, Twitter, Instagram and Reddit are also major players who could make a huge difference.

That site correctly lists apple.com as not supporting IPv6. The funny thing is that www.apple.com does support it.

Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

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The worst part about reddit in that case is that they use cloudflare which could be a 1 click update to ipv6. Previously they have stated that internal systems (spam, court orders, reporting) are holding them back from the change.

Still plausible, e.g. if their spam filters, court order handling and reporting expect to see IPv4 client addresses in their input and/or databases.

Cloudflare have a workaround for that too! https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/202494830-P...

Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

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https://ipv6wallofshame.com/ Baidu, Twitter, Instagram and Reddit are also major players who could make a huge difference.

That site correctly lists apple.com as not supporting IPv6. The funny thing is that www.apple.com does support it.

Same with microsoft.com.

Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

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IMO the major thing holding back IPv6 on the web is amazon. A huge proportion of services are hosted on AWS, and the lack of IPv6 addressing of instances cannot be forgiven.

Amazon seem to be slowly getting there: https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2016/10/ipv6-supp...

Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

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I noticed the other day that IPv6 growth is slowing down, as Google measures it. Its access share used to double every ten or eleven months, now it doubles more slowly, and seems likely to reach 20% only in 2017 instead of this year, and if it goes on as in the recent months, 30% in 2018 instead of in 2017. At a guess, many of most competent ISPs have done their thing and now we're seeing the more sluggish middle. Or…

In Belgium we're up to 49.5% of Google traffic over IPv6, which is pretty impressive. All major ISP's have IPv6 enabled in a dual-stack setup right now. This works because almost all of them provide an all-in-one modem/router/access point, all remotely managed, so it's easy to just flick a switch on the ISP end and magically have everything go over IPv6.

What's holding back further progress is mostly people with their own NAT routers/DHCP that's not set up for IPv6, or company networks where the transition isn't planned. That's going to change very, very slowly indeed.

Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

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I noticed the other day that IPv6 growth is slowing down, as Google measures it. Its access share used to double every ten or eleven months, now it doubles more slowly, and seems likely to reach 20% only in 2017 instead of this year, and if it goes on as in the recent months, 30% in 2018 instead of in 2017. At a guess, many of most competent ISPs have done their thing and now we're seeing the more sluggish middle. Or…

IPv6 was always going to be an S-curve. My guess is we'll see switchover at about the same rate up to 80%-90%, and then a long tail.

Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

#17
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I noticed the other day that IPv6 growth is slowing down, as Google measures it. Its access share used to double every ten or eleven months, now it doubles more slowly, and seems likely to reach 20% only in 2017 instead of this year, and if it goes on as in the recent months, 30% in 2018 instead of in 2017. At a guess, many of most competent ISPs have done their thing and now we're seeing the more sluggish middle. Or…

If I remember well at least 2-3 years ago it was complicated to measure IPv6 usage on a high-end router, and that was tied to billing.

Every vendor (Cisco/Juniper/Alcatel/Huawei) had a different way to do it and since B2B billing depended on it IPv6 adoption was not as easy as expected.

Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

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Amazon and github are the two major offenders.

https://ipv6wallofshame.com/ Baidu, Twitter, Instagram and Reddit are also major players who could make a huge difference.

With poor adoption rate of IPv6 persists in China, half of those listed (taobao, tmall, baidu, hao123, qq, youku, sina, weibo, etc.) just won't change in near future.

Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

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Amazon and github are the two major offenders.

https://ipv6wallofshame.com/ Baidu, Twitter, Instagram and Reddit are also major players who could make a huge difference.

I work for one of the companies on that wall of shame. I wonder to what extent it has the reverse of the intended effect. "Oh so not even Amazon, Twitter or GitHub gives a crap about IPv6? Why should we?".

Re: IAB Statement on IPv6

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I noticed the other day that IPv6 growth is slowing down, as Google measures it. Its access share used to double every ten or eleven months, now it doubles more slowly, and seems likely to reach 20% only in 2017 instead of this year, and if it goes on as in the recent months, 30% in 2018 instead of in 2017. At a guess, many of most competent ISPs have done their thing and now we're seeing the more sluggish middle. Or…

In the UK, only one big(-ish) ISP supports IPv6, and 2 significantly smaller ones. BT claim to be pushing it out next year, but they still have a large number of older consumer-end router/modem devices which can't be updated for it, so it'll take another half a decade for those devices to fail and be replaced. Once BT have pushed it out, many of the companies that depend on them for varying things should be able to build implementations fairly quickly.
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