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Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae
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Re: Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae
#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good lord. The percentage of people who 'got sick' by Soylent was less 0.1% of all consumers. If we went into panic-mode for that kind of result for every product, we wouldn't have any products. The variation in humans is too great to test for everything. "The Lawyers" aren't going to shut anyone down because no one is suing, and if they tried I doubt any judge would allow a class-action lawsuit for a few tummyaches.…
> The percentage of people who 'got sick' by Soylent was less 0.1% of all consumers. If that happened to any other manufacturer's food product, there would be an immediate recall and a long intense search for the culprit before a single unit is sold to consumers again. This is people's health you're talking about, not some tech product with a dead pixel.
From the FDA's website:
"Food producers recall their products from the marketplace when the products are mislabeled or when the food may present a health hazard to consumers because the food is contaminated or has caused a foodborne illness outbreak."
Soylent is not mislabeled. Soylent is not contaminated. Soylent has not caused a foodborne illness outbreak.
At the moment, it appears that a small group of consumers discovered they have a sensitivity to algae. They were not hospitalized. No one has died. I'm not even sure anyone missed work.
Let's not turn this into an Upton Sinclair novel. Humans are not particularly fragile creatures.
Re: Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae
#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
You could also say some people like Trump and other people like Clinton, and it's just an opinion. However, one opinion is highly correlated with being more educated. I suspect that the same is true here. The population at large has a very poor level of education about food, and Soylent seeks to exploit that very large business opportunity. I would prefer to see more people with an understanding of healthy eating and…
That's call convenient. We still have people with poor level of education on programming and computer, yet company keep making more accessible PERSONAL COMPUTER for people to use.
I think personal computers area good analogy to kitchen equipment, but I draw the opposite conclusion.
Back in the 1980s, only a small group of elite users had access to workstations built by companies like SGI, which had advanced graphics beyond anything the average person would know. Many people couldn't type and had secretaries to do it for them.
Nowadays, there are millions of people who know how to use advances tools like Photoshop, every computer is essentially a workstation, and some people even want to see every child learning how to code.
Food literacy and kitchen equipment are going on the same trajectory, and I'd put my money on the food startups that cater to the high end of the market, which will eventually been the mainstream.
Re: Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae
#254Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry for the strong language but bullshit. I am sure it has changed over the years but I still have vivid memories of the rodents that ran around the original warehouse they mixed soylent in. It was a joke. They had a bunch of randos mixing powders haphazardly and no sense of proper food prep/sanitation. It was scarier than some of the operations that supplement manufacturers run. I am sure its changed but it blows…
None of the bags made in that facility were sold to the public. I remember because I was an original crowdfunder eager to receive my first shipment. They did not ship until they were producing it at the regulated co-packing facility.
Just out of curiosity, what did they do with the mix from that warehouse?
Re: Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae
#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
None of the bags made in that facility were sold to the public. I remember because I was an original crowdfunder eager to receive my first shipment. They did not ship until they were producing it at the regulated co-packing facility.
Just out of curiosity, what did they do with the mix from that warehouse?
As far as I know, they tested it on themselves and gave it to friends and reporters to hype it up.
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#256Re: Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae
#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
Besides, it's not called "Soylent Green". Green was the cause of the shock twist in the movie, but there was also Soylent Red and Soylent Yellow in the movie, which were pretty much what Soylent, the product, is trying to become. The name is appropriate in the context of the movie, although I would have never chosen it.
> The name is appropriate in the context of the movie Only if you don't see a problem with buying from a company whose other product lines include ground up paupers. The name is like a stupid teenage joke which somehow managed to survive onto packaging. Also it's objectively ironic that the problem is related to algae, which is commonly green .
And what are people who hate a product simply because its name resembles some movie 40 years ago? A stupid teenager? Or a stupid adult?
Re: Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae
#258Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can say the same thing about the food in any restaurant. I really don't understand the hate that's directed towards this product. Nobody was seriously injured, it was a relatively small number of people that got sick. Soylent is trying to do something more ambitious than other packaged food manufacturers. It's not unreasonable to expect there to be some small hiccups. If you can't tolerate that, then don't buy it…
> You can say the same thing about the food in any restaurant. But Soylent is supposed to be consumable on a daily basis, so long-term effects are important. Remember the documentary Super Size Me, which tested long term effects of food from a certain fast-food restaurant? [1] [1] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390521
Super Size Me was ridiculous, I bought into it too, but he was going out of his way to eat unhealthy at McDonald's. Even McDonald's puts nutritional information out there and doesn't recommend the daily intake of calories that guy was making.
Re: Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae
#259Sounds like they have a bug in their "food stack" and this modification is like printf debugging - if no one gets sick then it was the algae, otherwise they will need to continue poking around to figure out what's wrong. What a silly game to play when people's health is at stake.
"printf debugging" is just glorified experimentation. How would you proceed differently?
Re: Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae
#260Here's what I don't get... There is all this bad hype about Soylent. Why not just get one of the dozens of other meal replacement shakes in your average health food store?