Has there ever been a company that built this kind of hype over years and then in the end actually delivered something truly revolutionary? Judging from companies like Cuil (not sure if the name is right), Segway or Color they will fizzle out once their product gets on the market, if ever.
If past history is the only thing to go on you are correct. However there are quite a few level A players investing huge sums of money in this. I have to think they are paying attention.
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#72Has there ever been a company that built this kind of hype over years and then in the end actually delivered something truly revolutionary? Judging from companies like Cuil (not sure if the name is right), Segway or Color they will fizzle out once their product gets on the market, if ever.
If past history is the only thing to go on you are correct. However there are quite a few level A players investing huge sums of money in this. I have to think they are paying attention.
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#73Here's a peek at your future.... https://vimeo.com/166807261
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#74I believe Magic Leap has a new kind of display technology, but the article is pretty bullshit-sounding with statements like this: "Throw out your PC, your laptop and your mobile phone, because the computing power you need will be in your glasses, and they can make a display appear anywhere, at any size you like." Yeah sure, they not only made a new display tech but integrated the computing power of desktops or laptop…
They've been doing this for how many years? And sinking how much money into content development? How about developing an actual product?
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#75[1]: http://gpuofthebrain.com/blog/2016/7/22/how-magic-leap-will-...
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#76So clearly the author is sympathetic to the aura that Magic Leap is cultivating through secrecy and selective media engagements: > When it arrives–best guess is within the next 18 months–it could usher in a new era of computing, a next-generation interface we’ll use for decades to come. ...which may be a pretty valid statement or sentiment overall, but later in the article, we get to the crux of the "potential" futur…
I was also disappointed by that statement. I would expect much more from the first applications. Let me try to be constructive and think of some: + To have a cat even if you can't feed it or clean up (elderly). + To find out how it is to have a baby, how to feed it, how to care for it. + Dating first with an avatar before going for the real deal. + Searching for things without having to open cabinets or boxes. + Colo…
Maybe I'm just weird or old-fashioned.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
"We're going to make augmented reality everything ! Repair manuals, etc" Bullshit. You're going to model and diagram every part and repair guide from every production model vehicle ever? Magic Leap would need a software development industry unto itself to build the solutions being batted lightly about in the OP like pingpong balls
I'm skeptical too, but I could envision a path where this gets a lot of the work done at a tooling level. All these products will have CAD models behind them already, AutoCad and SolidWorks, et al, could introduce tooling to pump out the assets necessary for this at not-terrible levels of effort, couldn't they?
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember that we were going to revamp existing cities and build new cities in accordance to this wonderful transportation device that would change everything, of which I cannot recall the name. I currently see them used as joke props in movies.
Segway
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#79I believe Magic Leap has a new kind of display technology, but the article is pretty bullshit-sounding with statements like this: "Throw out your PC, your laptop and your mobile phone, because the computing power you need will be in your glasses, and they can make a display appear anywhere, at any size you like." Yeah sure, they not only made a new display tech but integrated the computing power of desktops or laptop…
http://uploadvr.com/magic-leap-how-it-works/
Magic leap is a pair of glasses you wear on your face that displays AR imagery through a clear glass lens. There's a cable leading from these glasses to your pocket where you have a tablet-size device doing all the heavy lifting, most likely using mobile SoC's. Pretty sure you can't run a desktop CPU and GPU on a pocketable device.
You don't get 1080gtx performance or anything remotely close to that with a setup like this. Its mobile-level graphics. Oculus's recent showing of its mobile SoC-based Santa Cruz prototype shows fairly poor graphics compared to PC-based VR like the Rift or Vive. I imagine the Magic Leap has less pixels to push considering it isn't doing any backgrounds, but still, those very impressive marketing shots of high resolution dragons flying around and interacting with you might not really be possible without a lot of compromises on graphic quality, fov, framerate, etc. Worse, no one wants to talk about transparency, especially in well-lit rooms. The few hands-on Hololens reports we've gotten make this out to be a big issue, as well as fov, and fundamentally the Magic Leap and what hololens is using could be the same or very similar technologies.
My gut feeling is that no one has yet to handle the transparency issue (and this is why MS can show off the hololens with confidence) and because of that it makes sense for Magic Leap to keep its product secretive. The tech press was not too kind to Hololens prototypes due to transparecy issues and Magic Leap doesn't need that kind of negative press as it continues to fund-raise and develop its product.
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#80I've been hearing rumors about these guys for years and it never seems to be any more than what's in this article-- "we saw some special effects and our wallets flipped themselves out of our back pockets onto the table and began spewing money". People so often underestimate the difficulty of productizing significant UI changes, not realizing that getting content to migrate to the new shiny will be at least as hard as…
John Carmack joining Oculus was a quick reason to think: "hm, this team has people who know how to get things done and launch." Maybe Magic Leap has the same types of engineers [does Graeme have the same reputation as hyper productive dev?], but there are reasons Carmack has this reputation [1]. And I've known and worked with people like this. People who are utterly relentless. Insanely productive. And honestly? I wo…
I think there's some practical considerations here with the "magic engineer" who can do anything quickly and, of course, the laws of diminishing or even negative returns outlined in books like the Mythical Man-Month. Even the impressive Santa Cruz is years out from being sold. Graphically it cannot compete with the PC-based systems it would ultimately compete with.