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Re: LessPass: sync-less open source password manager

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evil hax0r has database of leaked hashes from shittyonlinewebappyoudidntknowyousignedupfor.com, which includes your email address and a bad hash of your password. They run them through some standard password dictionaries using hashcat and break all of the 'letmein', 'monkey', 'qwerty', '111111' passwords within seconds. Then they run some bigger dictionaries and some nice rule-sets and crack another 50%. Then they st…

As someone pointed out above, the problem with this argument is that the password becomes cipher text. That means that each time it is gathered by an attacker it gets easier to compromise. For most of us, this is not an issue because there is so much low hanging fruit. For some -- say a celebrity or person of public interest -- this could be a serious problem as they are already the target of a focused effort.

> That means that each time it is gathered by an attacker it gets easier to compromise.

I don't think this is relevant. You still need to inverse the key-derivation function. If you know a hundred passwords, this will be technically easier than if you know one password, but it should not matter if the security margin of the key-derivation function is high enough.

Re: LessPass: sync-less open source password manager

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This looks really nice as well, is there a catch? Why would I pay for eg LastPass?

Lastpass is free now for mobile devices! If that is what you were willing to pay for! It syncs seamlessly across all desktop browsers, iOS and Android devices without any issues.

Oh! Thanks.

Re: LessPass: sync-less open source password manager

#193

What this seems to be, in essence: password = HMAC(key, website). Why this is bad, compared to an encrypted on-disk key store: 1. A password is now ciphertext, not a block of line noise. Every time you transmit it, you are giving away potential clues of use to an attacker. 2. The search space for possible passwords is bounded if you know the website. You are subject to key guessing attacks. If your key is short, pure…

I think these concerns are slightly misleading. 2., 3. and 4. boil down to 1. 1. is a problem. If one password is compromised it is possible to brute force the master password. This is mitigated by a key-derivation function. 2. is also mitigated by a key-derivation function. Also you still need to test the guesses, which requires knowing one password or trying to log into a website. The second option should be equiva…

You are assuming that the site is not evil.

Re: LessPass: sync-less open source password manager

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Hi Guillaume, Your master password is 'passwordpassword'. 10 points if you know how I figured that out :)

An issue was raised for this over on GitHub[1] after it was pointed out by others.

Quite an interesting example of how easy it is to slip up and make something trivially crackable.

[1] https://github.com/lesspass/lesspass/issues/48

Re: LessPass: sync-less open source password manager

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While the idea sounds alright (and I've seen similar ideas done before), there are a few problems with this system that make me quite cautious about trying it: * In order to handle different password complexities, regeneration of passwords and similar setting, you have to use a "connected" version (read: you have to store the configuration). In addition, the configuration they have includes potentially sensitive info…

The login you use with lesspass doesn't need to match your actual login on a web site. In fact, nothing needs to match anything real. You could use any url or alias for the service you want to access ie "Google" and you can use your real login or any other text, it doesn't matter as far as you remember it (You could use 'me' for every site, I don't know why this field is required)

Okay, but now I have to remember 3x as many things as with a managed password manager. And how do I handle having multiple accounts on the same website?

"You can put whatever you want in field X" is not a solution to the problem IMO.

Re: LessPass: sync-less open source password manager

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It's great people are exploring this problem space, but so far nothing comes close to https://www.passwordstore.org/ which is just a wrapper around gpg and git. It has Android/iOS clients, as well as GUI clients. On Android I use Password Store + OpenKeychain, the UX with a YubiKey is very smooth. https://fossdroid.com/a/openkeychain.html https://fossdroid.com/a/password-store.html

Can you point me in the direction of the iOS client?

Nevermind, I think I've got it (https://github.com/davidjb/pass-ios) but is there a no-jailbreak option?

Re: LessPass: sync-less open source password manager

#198

SuperGenPass is (was?) a similar concept: supergenpass.com

Please don't use that, the password derivation "algorithm" used there is extremely weak. I explained the issue a while ago here:

https://palant.de/2016/04/20/security-considerations-for-pas...

That blog post lists two extensions with hashing algorithm "custom" - that's SuperGenPass.

Re: LessPass: sync-less open source password manager

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Does it officially support every major browser on my desktop and phone? Anything that doesn't is still less useful to be than LastPass.

I don't think it supports any browsers via plugin. You use a separate app to unlock your keychain, it places the relevant password on your clipboard and then it clears the clipboard 30s later. Very simple and therefore avoids a whole bunch of vulnerabilities other password managers (like LastPass) introduce by integrating with browser plugins.

Sounds a lot more complicated than automatically logging me in without need for any action on my part like LastPass

Re: LessPass: sync-less open source password manager

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>I really like the browser integration, which there isn't anything comparable for pass. people keep saying stuff like this (the one i use because x feature has no real competitor) lastpass. i've used most password managers out there and lastpass hits all these points and more

After lastpass was bought out, I went on a spree to find a different password manager and in that process, I tried almost all of them (free & paid). Nothing came close to Lastpass so I decided to stick with them until they mess up. If the worst comes to worst, I'll probably move to Dashlane (which is significantly more expensive & a bit more work to use - extensions won't work without a desktop app)

I've tried all of them and Dashlane is by far my favorite and only one I was able to stick to using. Worth the money IMO.
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