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Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae

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Re: Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae

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Post by codingdave »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #71
Xisiqomelir wrote: post #19

I'm still amazed people pay for this shit when fully-regulated formulated meal replacements have been around for years.

I ask this in every thread when it's brought up and almost never get a real answer. Are there any examples of drinks with a flavorless (or very mild) option, that don't focus on imbalanced amounts of protein and body-building? I like Soylent because it's relatively cheap (if I was just going for cost effectiveness, nothing beats bulk-buying beans and rice), I don't get sick of the taste after having it 3 times in a r…

https://myvega.com/vega-one-nutritional-shake?option_Flavor=...

It has flavors, but is not a "gimme protein!" formula, so it is what I consume.

Re: Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae

#92

Post by squeaky-clean »

jerrycruncher wrote: post #67
haliax wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have examples that are both not full of sugar and available to the general public at a reasonable cost?

http://www.rayandterry.com/products/more-categories/weight-l... http://www.procapslabs.com/Products/Details/268447427/Secure... Both have 5g net carbs per serving, but are intended more as a single meal replacement than something a person could solely subsist on.

> Both have 5g net carbs per serving

Depends on what you consider a serving. The second link only has 67 calories per "serving", so really 30 scoops in a day. Using the 2000 calorie baseline, that would be about 150g of sugar, twice as much as Soylent. Also 200g protein vs 100g.

The first link would still take 20 scoops in a day. There's no sugar in it, which is good (personally I hate things like Stevia, but others may not mind), but it's still clearly a protein drink with 372g of protein in one days worth of calories.

Re: Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae

#93

Post by DanBC »

67726e wrote: post #82
DanBC wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that's the point - they claim it's fine for everyone, even those with allergies, but then formulate the product with known allergens. And now, with the new formula, when people are complaining of sickness they're saying it's a potential allergy or sensitivity to algae.

How many products claim they're for everyone? Why not go after one-size fits all baseball caps too? It's just another round of marketing bullshit.

They made a specific, clear, medical claim: this product is okay for everyone, even those with allergies.

They then made the product with known allergens.

How is that okay?

Re: Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae

#95

Post by DanBC »

bloaf wrote: post #83
DanBC wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People are complex and sometimes have allergies or reactions to foods that they don't even know or understand. That's fine, but Soylent marketed the product as being suitable for everyone even if they had allergies. Soylent's words: > "For anyone that struggles with allergies, heartburn, acid reflux or digestion, has trouble controlling weight or cholesterol, or simply doesn't have the means to eat well, soylent is…

There is literally no such thing as a drink that is ok for everyone: http://www.medicaldaily.com/alexandra-allen-utah-teen-rare-w...

I know. I'm not making the claim - Soylent is.

Re: Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae

#96

Post by homulilly »

Slurpee99 wrote: post #31
homulilly wrote: post #10

someone should inform the author of this article that algae aren't plants

Some algae are, and some are not. For example most green algae are still considered plants.

Plants generally aren't grouped with green algae despite them having evolved from a common ancestor. I guess it's a bit like the crustacean/insect division, so maybe I was being a bit too facetious.

Re: Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae

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Post by squeaky-clean »

codingdave wrote: post #91
squeaky-clean wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I ask this in every thread when it's brought up and almost never get a real answer. Are there any examples of drinks with a flavorless (or very mild) option, that don't focus on imbalanced amounts of protein and body-building? I like Soylent because it's relatively cheap (if I was just going for cost effectiveness, nothing beats bulk-buying beans and rice), I don't get sick of the taste after having it 3 times in a r…

https://myvega.com/vega-one-nutritional-shake?option_Flavor=... It has flavors, but is not a "gimme protein!" formula, so it is what I consume.

Thanks for this! Looks like I can pick the "Natural" flavor at a nearby store, so I'll probably be trying this soon. A little higher on protein than Soylent, but it doesn't seem to be in the protein-shake range that normally upsets my stomach, everything else looks pretty good.

Re: Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae

#98

Post by baby »

st3v3r wrote: post #72
darawk wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can say the same thing about the food in any restaurant. I really don't understand the hate that's directed towards this product. Nobody was seriously injured, it was a relatively small number of people that got sick. Soylent is trying to do something more ambitious than other packaged food manufacturers. It's not unreasonable to expect there to be some small hiccups. If you can't tolerate that, then don't buy it…

"Soylent is trying to do something more ambitious than other packaged food manufacturers" No, they aren't. There is nothing special about what they're trying to do compared to any other packaged food manufacturer. That's why they shouldn't be cut any more slack than any other manufacturer. "It's not unreasonable to expect there to be some small hiccups." It entirely is. If this happened to Twinkies, people would be l…

> There is nothing special about what they're trying to do compared to any other packaged food manufacturer

I'm neutral on this debate, but I think you are wrong here. Soylent is a meal replacer. It is supposed to bring you all nutrients you need in a meal.

Re: Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae

#99

Post by jerrycruncher »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #92
jerrycruncher wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.rayandterry.com/products/more-categories/weight-l... http://www.procapslabs.com/Products/Details/268447427/Secure... Both have 5g net carbs per serving, but are intended more as a single meal replacement than something a person could solely subsist on.

> Both have 5g net carbs per serving Depends on what you consider a serving. The second link only has 67 calories per "serving", so really 30 scoops in a day. Using the 2000 calorie baseline, that would be about 150g of sugar, twice as much as Soylent. Also 200g protein vs 100g. The first link would still take 20 scoops in a day. There's no sugar in it, which is good (personally I hate things like Stevia, but others…

As I said, neither are intended to be one's sole source of calories or nutrients.

Re: Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae

#100

Post by dragonwriter »

st3v3r wrote: post #72
darawk wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can say the same thing about the food in any restaurant. I really don't understand the hate that's directed towards this product. Nobody was seriously injured, it was a relatively small number of people that got sick. Soylent is trying to do something more ambitious than other packaged food manufacturers. It's not unreasonable to expect there to be some small hiccups. If you can't tolerate that, then don't buy it…

"Soylent is trying to do something more ambitious than other packaged food manufacturers" No, they aren't. There is nothing special about what they're trying to do compared to any other packaged food manufacturer. That's why they shouldn't be cut any more slack than any other manufacturer. "It's not unreasonable to expect there to be some small hiccups." It entirely is. If this happened to Twinkies, people would be l…

Soylent pretends to be more ambitious in substance, but that's mostly hype. OTOH, it's the hype that's the only reason anyone pays attention to Soylent at all, so they are kind of stuck accepting the bad side of that along with the good.
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