I'd be happy with doing away with Daylight Savings Time.
Time to Dump Time Zones
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Re: Time to Dump Time Zones
#22Wait until we go interplanetary. :)
Then also "let's talk in 5 mins" won't work anymore.
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#23As this version of the thread seems to have more points I'll comment here. I completely agree with everyone using UTC for numeric time numbering. I DISAGREE, with remapping 'noon', 'midnight', 'morning', etc. All of the relative descriptions for when in the local solar day a thing is should be approximate local references. An example: 'lunch' and 'noon' would still be the time in the middle of the local solar day tha…
Regarding UTC: when I've tried (as a European) to coordinate online meetings with Americans (working in tech companies) using times given in UTC, it's gone wrong about 50% of the time. Usually caused by people confusing UTC and British Summer Time (UTC+1).
Re: Time to Dump Time Zones
#24So you want to abolish time zones (https://qntm.org/abolish)
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#25Sounds good to me. If the farmers want daylight savings then simply go to work at a different time, UTC.
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#26Sounds great to me. If the farmers want daylight savings then simply go to work at a different time, UTC.
Re: Time to Dump Time Zones
#27Sounds good to me. If the farmers want daylight savings then simply go to work at a different time, UTC.
Re: Time to Dump Time Zones
#28Someone wrote an article a while back about why this is a stupid idea -- mostly things like "if I want to call so and so in Australia I would now need to find out what time of day in Australia is the time I consider to be evening"
Computers already work in terms of utc (assuming correct code ;) ) -- this article is mostly "I know what time I'm in, why should I have to consider other people?"
If we were to get rid of anything it should be DST as we aren't agrarian and there's no evidence that the modern "save power" claims are remotely accurate. But then again it's a politically cheap thing for politicians to change it "help the environment" and helping the environment is always good, right? :-/
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#29Getting rid of Daylight Savings makes complete sense, and it's something we should really pursue.
Getting rid of Time Zones is ridiculous. People know that 6am roughly is morning, and 6pm is roughly the evening. When you're dealing with someone internationally, you know not to call them at midnight their time because there's a high probability they may be sleeping. Having time roughly follow a standard around the world makes absolute sense because we're human.
Re: Time to Dump Time Zones
#30As this version of the thread seems to have more points I'll comment here. I completely agree with everyone using UTC for numeric time numbering. I DISAGREE, with remapping 'noon', 'midnight', 'morning', etc. All of the relative descriptions for when in the local solar day a thing is should be approximate local references. An example: 'lunch' and 'noon' would still be the time in the middle of the local solar day tha…
Regarding UTC: when I've tried (as a European) to coordinate online meetings with Americans (working in tech companies) using times given in UTC, it's gone wrong about 50% of the time. Usually caused by people confusing UTC and British Summer Time (UTC+1).
Sadly, that's because they think UTC == GMT (which does have DST). UTC would be the time that computer software operates in and then feeds humans 'human time'.
You also can't use 'Zulu' from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_time_zones either, for that same confusion.
The problem, like with driving, is that humans are communicating the time to humans, instead of the 'smartest' humans having programmed computers how to convey time for the rest of the humans.