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Why Facebook will win the Internet & why that scares the shit out of me

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Re: Why Facebook will win the Internet & why that scares the shit out of me

#11
RFID tags "implanted" in conference badges? The OP jumps on to this slippery slope argument and lands in big-brother-knows-my-physical-location land. Nowhere at f8 did Facebook announce any plans for stepping into the location-based services market, least of all with any specialized hardware the OP is so afraid of.  

Re: Why Facebook will win the Internet & why that scares the shit out of me

#13
post #2

This is enough to make me want to use a separate browser just for facebook, to make sure that facebook doesn't know anything about me that I don't consciously decide to tell it. Hmm, startup idea: a browser designed specifically to keep facebook in its place.

Can't someone develop an extension that prevents cookies from being accessed inside iframes (white/blacklist)? Wouldn't that stop the whole problem?

Or simply block the facebook iframe urls?

Re: Why Facebook will win the Internet & why that scares the shit out of me

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post #10

Unless this guy doesn't have any Credit Cards or specialty cards (Grocery, Gas, etc...) I think he's probably already in the position that he's scared Facebook will put him in. It's just not being run by Facebook. Really what he's doing is freaking out over Facebook because they've been open about what info they're collecting. While the Grocery store tricks him with a discount and then takes all his info on the back…

That grocery store cannot then tie it to not only who you are but who your friends are. They have your name and address, but they don't have your entire social graph at their fingertips. Or your entire digital (or, with the rfid, real-world) historical travel data.

If this goes tits up, it could be just the kind of surveillance needed for a 21st century locked-down police state.

Re: Why Facebook will win the Internet & why that scares the shit out of me

#16
The problem with Facebook is and will always be this: when you signed up, you signed away your rights to privacy.

If you think publishing into their social graph is worth letting them spy on you, go for it.

If you want access to their social graph so you can unearth long-lost friends, feel free.

Personally, I don't see how any of it adds up to a fair deal in anyone's mind, but I very often am unable to understand why people do things that are against their own best interests.

Re: Why Facebook will win the Internet & why that scares the shit out of me

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post #10

Unless this guy doesn't have any Credit Cards or specialty cards (Grocery, Gas, etc...) I think he's probably already in the position that he's scared Facebook will put him in. It's just not being run by Facebook. Really what he's doing is freaking out over Facebook because they've been open about what info they're collecting. While the Grocery store tricks him with a discount and then takes all his info on the back…

Yes. Here's the epic.org link shared in another Facebook thread here on HN yesterday by another HN participant:

http://epic.org/privacy/profiling/

Re: Why Facebook will win the Internet & why that scares the shit out of me

#19
There are three countervailing forces: the residual desire for privacy, the availability of cloud resources, and the ubiquity of personal mobile computing.

There are still plenty of people who use Facebook and even the Internet as little as possible. They can do so because there are other communication channels available and because networks other than the ones online still matter as much or more than their online networks.

The cloud and mobile computing will allow some people to opt-out of social networks, providing ecological niches for competitor networks to grow. Some youth will aways find it awkward to be on the same social network as their parents. New social networks will arise and competition will keep these networks in check.

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