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How “Black Mirror” Gets Its Barely Sci-Fi Tech Just Right

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The first episode is the very worst of the whole serious. "Fan-fiction" level of writing. Everything so obvious with tired tropes. A critique to social media that could be done by an imaginative high school kid. The other ones are good, interesting and worth watching. Although only San Junipero is great. Edit: Shut up and dance is great too.

Really? I liked the first episode. What I think is the absolute worst (of all Black Mirror, I'd say!) is the second episode, Playtest. It's embarrassingly bad, completely amateurish, not really scary, too drawn out and with dodgy SFX and a weak premise. I also didn't like Shut Up & Dance much. To me it felt like a weaker "White Rabbit", and much of the episode hinges on a single plot twist at the end (much like White…

I have to say I felt the opposite. E1 felt incredibly hamfisted, really pushing the whole "everyone is constantly on their phones and obsespsed with Internet reputation", when in my own life I have observed the pendulum actually swinging the other direction away from that trend which, in my experiences, peaked towards the end of the 2000 decade.

E2 on the other hand was quite good. I did not find the SFX to be bad at all - and that itself far removed from what made the episode great.

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The first episode is the very worst of the whole serious. "Fan-fiction" level of writing. Everything so obvious with tired tropes. A critique to social media that could be done by an imaginative high school kid. The other ones are good, interesting and worth watching. Although only San Junipero is great. Edit: Shut up and dance is great too.

"Fan-fiction" level of writing. Everything so obvious with tired tropes. A critique to social media that could be done by an imaginative high school kid. Funny: that's exactly what I think about the whole series. I have (guiltily) watched all three seasons with anticipation, and I still don't really see what the big deal is. But then de gustibus non est disputandum , so that's just me.

If you're a seasoned scifi reader then you'll see most of the twists coming and be aware of most of the tropes. The show relies on slowly unveiling the various concepts over the course of the episodes.

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Are people liking the latest season of Black Mirror? I'm only three episodes in and haven't yet gotten to San Junipero, which everyone says is the really good one, but so far I've been a little disappointed. This might be regression to the mean, since I felt that the first six episodes were six home runs in a row and it must be tough to keep a streak like that going, but so far season 3 seems to have lost something.…

I've only watched episodes 2, 3, and 6, and I agree, not particularly compelling compared to even the 3 worst episodes of the previous seasons. It's still good, but not uniquely interesting or provoking in the way that past seasons have been.

I have not seen 6, but of 2 and 3, 2 is especially good and I don't really see any parallels between it and the first two seasons.

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other than being post-scarcity, I'd say recycling is literally almost this. it's not actually all that valuable as an activity and functions more as penance for the sin of consumerism.

Do you have references for that? There are many challenges involved in recycling, and it's certainly far more valuable to reduce consumption and increase re-use, but any review I've seen still shows recycling having a significant net environmental benefit.

Only certain materials are truly valuable - they're the ones people pay to recycle. Metal-based recycling is incredibly valuable to the population and environment.

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To me, the third episode (Shut up and dance) is the outstanding episode, at the end I was mentally exhausted and incredibly saddened. San Junipero is different, without ruining things, it's the only episode where at the end, I wasn't considering the "where" that we're heading towards as a society (though on further thinking, it's a question of whether something good is also something moral.) – It's just very differen…

> there's one episode which I didn't finish as it just didn't interest me, it was the army-type episode, I got bored incredibly quickly. "Men Against Fire" was the most disturbing episode of the season. Army with AR implants for zero-empathy ethnic cleansing.

It's actually "genetic cleansing", if I understood the exposition right. Same like with "Shut up and dance", this twist a provides believable reason why some think what's going on is actually justifiable.

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Really? I liked the first episode. What I think is the absolute worst (of all Black Mirror, I'd say!) is the second episode, Playtest. It's embarrassingly bad, completely amateurish, not really scary, too drawn out and with dodgy SFX and a weak premise. I also didn't like Shut Up & Dance much. To me it felt like a weaker "White Rabbit", and much of the episode hinges on a single plot twist at the end (much like White…

I have to say I felt the opposite. E1 felt incredibly hamfisted, really pushing the whole "everyone is constantly on their phones and obsespsed with Internet reputation", when in my own life I have observed the pendulum actually swinging the other direction away from that trend which, in my experiences, peaked towards the end of the 2000 decade. E2 on the other hand was quite good. I did not find the SFX to be bad at…

Yes, I didn't say I loved it, I just liked it. Though in my experience the trend still goes on, with everyone around me on facebook and constantly checking their phones. That said, Black Mirror is about extremes, not necessarily about how things are now.

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I wouldn't consider using people on bicycles to power society good science. It's probably one of the most inefficient methods of energy generation. That episode seemed a bit far fetched to me.

The bicycle is the most efficient form of human-powered transportation.

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I do not enjoy watching Black Mirror , yet I do watch it.To make me realize that all the technology boom/bubble right now can go bad too. One of the my favourite parts about the series is that it focuses on one technology at a time. Had they focussed on multiple advancements of tech,they would be as unbelievable and superficial like other sci-fi shows.

But the real world has multiple technologies intermingled with each other. The point I am trying to make here:

While we think Black Mirror is bad enough (I cannot watch watch more than one episode at a time),what will happen in reality could be much worse.

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There was a trailer a few years back with a bunch of 20-something white gamer dudes in some kind of dystopian future gamer den playing a CoD style shooter, which was in reality --- well, the same plot twist as "Men Against Fire". I thought (a) the trailer was much more evocative than the Man Against Fire episode, and (b) that it was possible that "Man Against Fire" borrowed its idea from that trailer. Later Found it!…

Both UV and the BM episode strongly reminded me of an Outer Limits (I think?) episode about a perpetual war between humans and aliens in some underground cave. The reveal is pretty similar to that in Men Against Fire, except the justification is different.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearts_and_Minds_(The_Outer_Li...

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> there's one episode which I didn't finish as it just didn't interest me, it was the army-type episode, I got bored incredibly quickly. "Men Against Fire" was the most disturbing episode of the season. Army with AR implants for zero-empathy ethnic cleansing.

It got the dichotomy right - the solution for horrible things like PTSD also turned out to be justifying continuation of a horrific crime in its own right. The balance of how technology is amoral and how we use it as a society and for what agendas is illustrated in one of the better ways in this specific episode. The problem I had with the episode is similar to my complaint with all of season 3 - unnecessarily slow p…

Um, how would PTSD "date" an episode? The clinical term may be recent but it's not going to go away and it didn't just start - see reports of shellshock from WW1.
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