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> It's far more useful than the current University arrangement, where 'everyone' gets to pay money to drink for 3 years As shallow as it sounds though, it is bloody good fun.
The begs a question- why cant we have as much fun without paying through the nose
Do they also provide training for breaking into sawmills, stealing industrial designs, applying them to vacuum cleaners and patenting them so you can accumulate wealth thanks to a state granted monopoly? http://machinedesign.com/news/industrial-design-design-dyson... : > As it happened, Dyson was also having suction problems at the factory which made his Ballbarrow, a wheelbarrow he invented that uses a ball instead…
And what's specifically wrong with this, aside from the way the information was specifically acquired? In tech, we bemoan laws against technological breaking and entering with a view to learn about how things work (we call it reverse engineering), but applied to mechanical engineers this is not right? While I understand the law regarding trespass is different, this is just a means to an end. I think your argument wou…
There are people in prison for doing exactly that. Some impressionable ones killed themselves to avoid that fate. Praising one guy that got away with it because of luck and money is disingenuous at best.
By the way, the PR spin that followed is a thing of beauty: recent articles talk about a "visit" to the sawmill. Any mention of night or climbing all over the target have been removed.
> I think your argument would hold more weight if you could elaborate more on the patent and monopoly stuff
It's not an argument, it's an observation. The guy got incredibly rich by stealing a design, claiming it as his own and preventing everybody else from using it without his expensive permission. What is there to argue about? The way the society benefits from overpriced vacuum cleaners and silly fans with the rotor hidden from sight?
Effectively he's bringing back apprenticeships the way they should be. It's far more useful than the current University arrangement, where 'everyone' gets to pay money to drink for 3 years (whilst studying) and then either drop back into the market looking for useful work, or go on to spend even more time making Academia seem worthwhile. We used to be world leaders in engineering and production in the UK - now we jus…
How exactly does this square with the UK CS grad unemployment crisis? https://www.studyinternational.com/news/uk-computer-science-... http://blog.hefce.ac.uk/2015/07/08/unemployment-among-comput... “For a long time we wondered why more people didn’t major in computer science,” Alex Aiken, chair of Stanford University’s Computer Science Department, told Times Higher Education. “Everyone in the field believed it was th…
Simply because you have a CS degree doesn't mean you're qualified enough to be hired. Companies don't just hire based on a degree, they want demonstrable skills. I've seen 3rd year students unable to fix a basic java compilation error in their own program. No reasonable CS graduate I know is unemployed.
Its called curriculum, and is comfortably standardized for all students so you can find the best easily. Otherwise you would need to compare among random arbitrary sets of skills, different for each one of your candidates and this would be for companies basically like playing blind chicken to hire a candidate.
You need still to show demonstrable skills is often a way to say "I expect you to work for free until you realize that this is the real game here. I will replace you with the next hungry guy in the queue". Is just a mean to obtain the same cheaper, or free.
Do they have a commitment to Dyson once they receive their degree? Because, if they do, Dyson might actually also have a strong influence over their salary and other forms of compensation and benefits once they do.
In Germany they have "Berufsakademie". You get paid by a company while you go to school 6 months a year and are a sort of intern the other 6 months. and usually you are expected to work there but it's not enforced in any way. The starting salaries are the same as graduates from other colleges. It's a pretty good deal in my view.
For fields like software engineering I believe it is the best way to get a proper education.
Dyson, the billionaire who backed Brexit, is worried that there aren't enough engineers in the UK. Hah.
He also famously moved his manufacturing operations to Malaysia in 2003, resulting in the loss of 800 UK engineering jobs: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2860995/Dyson-production-...
Oh come on. http://www.btplc.com/Careercentre/Ourlocations/UK/Apprentice... And many other companies as well.
I don't think this is meant to be an apprenticeship. This is more a tertiary education. There is a similar system in Germany which is called "Berufsfachschule", which could be translated with "university of cooperative education".
- work in a high tech campus - work on projects for the company - go to lectures - get a degree - from a University
I am all for the Dyson initiative, but people should be more aware that this is an option!
So I ended up getting a degree after starting work as an apprentice. The days of an allowance are long gone, Uni degrees now cost here, but not as much as the folks across the pond seem to pay from what I can gather.
Would I have gone to uni in todays conditions? probably. would I have finished - hard to say, 3 years of scrabbling for money would have perhaps changed things.
The bit I can't figure out is why in the 70's and 80's we could afford that, but now we can't. I suspect it's peoples life style expectations, and the greed of those who earn money to not want to pay taxes. I don't like paying tax any more than the next person but if you want a functioning society taxes are necessary and the only way of redistributing wealth.
Effectively he's bringing back apprenticeships the way they should be. It's far more useful than the current University arrangement, where 'everyone' gets to pay money to drink for 3 years (whilst studying) and then either drop back into the market looking for useful work, or go on to spend even more time making Academia seem worthwhile. We used to be world leaders in engineering and production in the UK - now we jus…
In fact what he is setting up is very much similar to the German Mittelstand apprenticeship model; however to get similar results requires managers to change their ways, most apprenticeship trained staff in Mittelstand companies have a turnover of 2.7% (rather than up to 30% in entry level employees in US / UK).[0] This means that managers need to realise that you need good, technically solid training, and interestin…
Effectively he's bringing back apprenticeships the way they should be. It's far more useful than the current University arrangement, where 'everyone' gets to pay money to drink for 3 years (whilst studying) and then either drop back into the market looking for useful work, or go on to spend even more time making Academia seem worthwhile. We used to be world leaders in engineering and production in the UK - now we jus…
Trade apprenticeship (typically started at 14 /15 ) Higher / Professional apprenticeship BSC/ BA in Engineering
You could join the path at any point or go through all 3 stages