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How to get the wine you really want

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Re: How to get the wine you really want

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I don't quite understand why you winos take your critics so seriously in the first place. Critics are just people with opinions. Sometimes they can provide good justification for why whatever they're reviewing is good or bad. But not one of them is impartial enough that their opinion can be taken at face value, specially if you're not into the stuff they're pushing. This is more obvious with film and videogame. It wo…

A good friend of mine is actually a food/wine critic. He has said (and I think this applies to all good critics) that there's nothing special about the tastes of a critic. Some people may be more sensitive than others but critics are pretty much in the same population as the rest of us. The difference between a good critic and someone flapping their gums on Yelp is the ability TO WRITE something worthwhile about the…

I agree. To me, a good critic is not necessarily one with impeccable tastes, but one whose reviews give me all I need to know about whether I will like the subject in question.

Re: How to get the wine you really want

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My father has been a wine lover for all his, now long, adult life. He has an impressive cellar with some of the best wines of Spain and France. He was also fooled in some blind tastings, like believing a white wine was actually red. But he can also tell the difference between most of his favorite wines, and so do I. So this is not a black or white situation. While some blind taste tests are difficult, others are easy…

Honest question. Your example of the external conditions that enable the 34 year old wine to shine. How does that work with the wine? In other words, if I substitute the cheap modern wine that otherwise won in the blind taste test, what happens differently in the setting you describe?

Simple example; I used the whole day to prepare a strong wild boar stew and that will be a perfect pairing for a very strong wine, possibly old. If you bring a light wine of the year to that table it will get diluted on the strong flavors of the stew. We might have a good night but the wine won't shine.

Re: How to get the wine you really want

#55
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Twenty years ago I was a tea-totaller, but there was a group of people I wanted to hang out with who would get together to drink wine so I decided to try to develop a taste for it. I eventually got to be a pretty hard-core wine snob. My wife and I even ran a wine-tasting group for several years. Then one day we decided to start doing blind tastings, and we soon learned that there was very little correlation between w…

Had a private tasting with JGregory (Mark Jessup, who was the original wine maker for Opus 1)... The tasting was amazing, the experience was amazing... Bought several bottles for $68/each

Got them home - had some later, tasted nothing like what we had in the tasting room... weren't as impressed.

Same thing with Raymond, but Caymus is always consistent.

But if you like to drink wine - it doesn't make sense to drink a 30/60/90 dollar bottle of wine a week. You need to find a bottle that is something you like and is also affordable. Save the Special Selection for a special occasion.

Re: How to get the wine you really want

#56
post #3

Twenty years ago I was a tea-totaller, but there was a group of people I wanted to hang out with who would get together to drink wine so I decided to try to develop a taste for it. I eventually got to be a pretty hard-core wine snob. My wife and I even ran a wine-tasting group for several years. Then one day we decided to start doing blind tastings, and we soon learned that there was very little correlation between w…

Oh, you can go to wineries and make your own blend, then they will save the recipe for you and you can go back and get more of them at any later date.

Re: How to get the wine you really want

#57
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't quite understand why you winos take your critics so seriously in the first place. Critics are just people with opinions. Sometimes they can provide good justification for why whatever they're reviewing is good or bad. But not one of them is impartial enough that their opinion can be taken at face value, specially if you're not into the stuff they're pushing. This is more obvious with film and videogame. It wo…

A good friend of mine is actually a food/wine critic. He has said (and I think this applies to all good critics) that there's nothing special about the tastes of a critic. Some people may be more sensitive than others but critics are pretty much in the same population as the rest of us. The difference between a good critic and someone flapping their gums on Yelp is the ability TO WRITE something worthwhile about the…

I don't fully buy this. I expect my chosen jazz critic to be knowledgeable, like, a lot. Same for food and wine. I want to read the words of someone who has eaten on more places, more foods and more flavors than me, not less.

Your friend might be too humble.

Re: How to get the wine you really want

#58
post #12

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If I understood the article correctly, this machine will probably not create wine that you (dejv) will actually like, but may well succeed in doing so for the >99.9% of people who are not winemakers :-)

Well, I am sure given enough time I will likely find some ways to get good enough results out of it. The quality of end product will be mostly determined by quality of base wines. But the problem is that wine is multidimensional => say you want sweeter wine for which they use Muscadet. This wine is not just sweet, you are also adding whole set of new tastes to the mix: there will be some acidity and different set of…

I would say the odds improve as you have more options. Worse case the ideal mix is 100% wine X. But, given a set of wines odds are some mix will end up being better.

Re: How to get the wine you really want

#59
Quelle horreur!

They found that most customers are stick-in-the-muds. Instead of sampling different regions, grape varieties and vintages, they tend to order the same plonk every time they go out.

And the solution isn't the Vinfusion, its getting rid of the snobbery and not making people feel like fools for not knowing their wine.

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