I read about this, this morning and immediately thought of this Mark Cuban comment on building universities https://youtu.be/UgdNTzul27k?t=1m18s
Dyson opens Britain’s first degree where students get paid
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#42How exactly does this square with the UK CS grad unemployment crisis? https://www.studyinternational.com/news/uk-computer-science-... http://blog.hefce.ac.uk/2015/07/08/unemployment-among-comput... “For a long time we wondered why more people didn’t major in computer science,” Alex Aiken, chair of Stanford University’s Computer Science Department, told Times Higher Education. “Everyone in the field believed it was th…
Simply because you have a CS degree doesn't mean you're qualified enough to be hired. Companies don't just hire based on a degree, they want demonstrable skills.
I've seen 3rd year students unable to fix a basic java compilation error in their own program. No reasonable CS graduate I know is unemployed.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
You normally do a Bachelor of Engineering - B.Eng.
I think if you apply to any university they'll strongly recommend that you should be doing the MEng instead. The BEng isn't enough to even get chartered is it? So you'd need to do another degree anyway.
If the unis I've looked at are any indication then many offer an integrated masters programme but most students will be on the bachelors route. At the institution where I work (Uni of York) many more BEng degrees are awarded than MEng.
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#44Do they also provide training for breaking into sawmills, stealing industrial designs, applying them to vacuum cleaners and patenting them so you can accumulate wealth thanks to a state granted monopoly? http://machinedesign.com/news/industrial-design-design-dyson... : > As it happened, Dyson was also having suction problems at the factory which made his Ballbarrow, a wheelbarrow he invented that uses a ball instead…
And what's specifically wrong with this, aside from the way the information was specifically acquired?
In tech, we bemoan laws against technological breaking and entering with a view to learn about how things work (we call it reverse engineering), but applied to mechanical engineers this is not right?
While I understand the law regarding trespass is different, this is just a means to an end.
I think your argument would hold more weight if you could elaborate more on the patent and monopoly stuff, but instead you focus on the act and context of learning how the cyclone works.
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#45Dyson, the billionaire who backed Brexit, is worried that there aren't enough engineers in the UK. Hah.
The number of people who I know only voted for brexit because of his nonsense campaign over vacuum cleaners and EU regulations, quite frankly I hope they go bust.
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#46Re: Dyson opens Britain’s first degree where students get paid
#47Oh come on.
http://www.btplc.com/Careercentre/Ourlocations/UK/Apprentice...
And many other companies as well.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think that's overstating it, there's a lot of engineering in the UK. It just has a very low media profile, because it either has a foreign name on the product (Nissan!) or doesn't sell to consumers. A surprisingly large amount of it is in really unglamorous buildings in industrial estates outside cities other than London. Since the media have largely stopped bothering to leave the M25, it's invisible. (I have a pet…
> I have a pet theory based on the car industry that the really toxic thing is British labour relations I don't think that many people will disagree with you on this theory.
I will.
Every large company in the UK has a significant union. Not every large company has failed. Some company failures have been exacerbated by unions, british leyland being one example.
The really toxic thing is financial short termism. It used to be results in a year, which was very bad. Now they want results in under a quarter which is to value generation as acid to chalk.
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#49Oh come on. http://www.btplc.com/Careercentre/Ourlocations/UK/Apprentice... And many other companies as well.
I don't think this is meant to be an apprenticeship. This is more a tertiary education. There is a similar system in Germany which is called "Berufsfachschule", which could be translated with "university of cooperative education".
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#50Finally people are starting to understand the value of an apprenticeship system. The student loan fiasco is something that doesn't need to exist.