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Dyson opens Britain’s first degree where students get paid

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Re: Dyson opens Britain’s first degree where students get paid

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Post by mobiuscog »

Effectively he's bringing back apprenticeships the way they should be.

It's far more useful than the current University arrangement, where 'everyone' gets to pay money to drink for 3 years (whilst studying) and then either drop back into the market looking for useful work, or go on to spend even more time making Academia seem worthwhile.

We used to be world leaders in engineering and production in the UK - now we just have students everywhere, with no jobs to go to as we import pretty much everything.

Okay - slightly over-dramatic, but at least Dyson is trying to do something useful.

Re: Dyson opens Britain’s first degree where students get paid

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Post by chrisseaton »

gadders wrote: post #8
chrisseaton wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a bachelor degree would be unusual for the UK. Aren't most engineering degrees in the UK undergraduate masters?

You normally do a Bachelor of Engineering - B.Eng.

I think if you apply to any university they'll strongly recommend that you should be doing the MEng instead. The BEng isn't enough to even get chartered is it? So you'd need to do another degree anyway.

Re: Dyson opens Britain’s first degree where students get paid

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Post by dbbk »

mobiuscog wrote: post #11

Effectively he's bringing back apprenticeships the way they should be. It's far more useful than the current University arrangement, where 'everyone' gets to pay money to drink for 3 years (whilst studying) and then either drop back into the market looking for useful work, or go on to spend even more time making Academia seem worthwhile. We used to be world leaders in engineering and production in the UK - now we jus…

> It's far more useful than the current University arrangement, where 'everyone' gets to pay money to drink for 3 years

As shallow as it sounds though, it is bloody good fun.

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Post by dbbk »

nicoburns wrote: post #10
prefect42 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That last sentence is not a clear statement. Is that supposed to mean: that any accreditation by UofWarwick somehow applies to Dyson as well? The FAQ simply doesn't mention any accreditation whatsoever specifically for Dyson. Could be rather important, one way or the other.

It's fairly standard for non-academic teaching organisations to have their degrees sponsored by an established university. For example the Centre for Alternative Technology offers a number of masters courses without itself being a university [0]. This is probably more common for postgrad courses, but no reason why it couldn't work for undergrad too. https://gse.cat.org.uk

It's actually also quite common for undergraduate courses in the media industries.

Re: Dyson opens Britain’s first degree where students get paid

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Post by lima »

mobiuscog wrote: post #11

Effectively he's bringing back apprenticeships the way they should be. It's far more useful than the current University arrangement, where 'everyone' gets to pay money to drink for 3 years (whilst studying) and then either drop back into the market looking for useful work, or go on to spend even more time making Academia seem worthwhile. We used to be world leaders in engineering and production in the UK - now we jus…

Germany still has apprenticeships (we call it "Ausbildung") and it's great.

Re: Dyson opens Britain’s first degree where students get paid

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Post by EwanToo »

This does look interesting, but there's already degree apprentices out there doing essentially this in various employers, with an accredited degree at the end of the process.

We have a couple working in our office, and I've been hugely impressed by them

https://www2.mmu.ac.uk/apprenticeships/students/digital--tec...

Re: Dyson opens Britain’s first degree where students get paid

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Post by bildung »

mobiuscog wrote: post #12
orcdork wrote: post #9

Dyson, the billionaire who backed Brexit, is worried that there aren't enough engineers in the UK. Hah.

Part of the reason we don't have the people is because we rely on 'Europe' to provide everything.

Why is that not a problem for the other EU member states?

Re: Dyson opens Britain’s first degree where students get paid

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Post by Maken »

mobiuscog wrote: post #12
orcdork wrote: post #9

Dyson, the billionaire who backed Brexit, is worried that there aren't enough engineers in the UK. Hah.

Part of the reason we don't have the people is because we rely on 'Europe' to provide everything.

And importing talent is bad because...

Re: Dyson opens Britain’s first degree where students get paid

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Post by arethuza »

dbbk wrote: post #14
mobiuscog wrote: post #11

Effectively he's bringing back apprenticeships the way they should be. It's far more useful than the current University arrangement, where 'everyone' gets to pay money to drink for 3 years (whilst studying) and then either drop back into the market looking for useful work, or go on to spend even more time making Academia seem worthwhile. We used to be world leaders in engineering and production in the UK - now we jus…

> It's far more useful than the current University arrangement, where 'everyone' gets to pay money to drink for 3 years As shallow as it sounds though, it is bloody good fun.

"pay money to drink for 3 years"

Or 4 years here in Scotland - which reminds me that the university department where I studied and worked was in the Grassmarket of Edinburgh - which is an exceptional location for boozing.

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