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“Ultrasonic cross-device tracking” embeds inaudible tones in advertisements

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#21
Couldn't this already be done with Wifi and/or GPS?

Also, doesn't the electronics in the phone already filter out everything outside the audible part of the spectrum, just because it is more efficient to do so (lower sampling rate = better performance / lower power consumption)?

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Perhaps a tin foil hat would also work?

The acoustic attenuation of aluminum is good, but it would serve minimal use as a hat. If used as a sack instead of a hat, both sonic and micro waves might be reduced, which is probably better than wearing such stiff apparel.

But the more air-aluminum interfaces you can introduce, the better you'll degrade the signal.

Experts recommend wearing a minimum of three tinfoil hats.

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anyone know of an app that can detect these signals? Maybe decode them. easiest way to block them is to know they are there in the first place. i am suspicious that occasionally my laptop makes high pitch noise correlated to mouse movements when its running windows 10. edit:Thinking about it. seems possible that might actually be facebook. never installed their phone app untill i had android 6 because it wants mic pe…

I've noticed this before on another laptop. I believe it is EFI being picked up by the laptop amplifier, not from the touchpad, but actually from the graphics adaptor or display panel controller. You'll likely actually get the noise any time you cause the whole screen to refresh for a long period.

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post #21

Couldn't this already be done with Wifi and/or GPS? Also, doesn't the electronics in the phone already filter out everything outside the audible part of the spectrum, just because it is more efficient to do so (lower sampling rate = better performance / lower power consumption)?

This use case is closed to BLE and particularly iBeacons, but with the advantage of potentially requiring less special hardware and matching physical delineations better than radio (e.g. won't pass through walls to a neighboring business)

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#27
I wasn't aware (and would be surprised if) iOS apps with microphone privileges could listen all the time, even while in the background, which is really what would be required in this situation.

Is that really the case, or is the Ars piece suggesting I would be walking around with the advertiser's enabled app open all the time? (And I'd guess Android is in a similar boat.)

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#28

This is interesting. With the permissions system in Marshmallow, you can selectively disable microphone access, which is good. Those of us stuck on Lollipop will just have to be careful what apps we install.

Alternatively, CyanogenMod has had Privacy Guard for quite a while now, so that might be an option if your phone is one of the supported devices.

Re: “Ultrasonic cross-device tracking” embeds inaudible tones in advertisements

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post #27

I wasn't aware (and would be surprised if) iOS apps with microphone privileges could listen all the time, even while in the background, which is really what would be required in this situation. Is that really the case, or is the Ars piece suggesting I would be walking around with the advertiser's enabled app open all the time? (And I'd guess Android is in a similar boat.)

On iOS there is a prominent red banner informing an app is listening if it is listening in the background.
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