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Ubuntu 10.04 Appearance Changes vs Ubuntu 9.10

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Re: Ubuntu 10.04 Appearance Changes vs Ubuntu 9.10

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As a huge fan of Linux, I have to say the modern Apple and Microsoft operating systems look significantly better.

It's a growing process. The point is that it looks better than it did.

The problem is that Windows will have gone through another design interation by the time Ubuntu has reached the XP/Vista generation look-and-feel.

Re: Ubuntu 10.04 Appearance Changes vs Ubuntu 9.10

#32
post #4

As a huge fan of Linux, I have to say the modern Apple and Microsoft operating systems look significantly better.

I've recently tried Mint Linux, and it's very aesthetically pleasing (screenshot http://i.imgur.com/2OBiH.png). (Disclaimer: Mac user)

Edit: except for the tray icons.

Re: Ubuntu 10.04 Appearance Changes vs Ubuntu 9.10

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post #27

Will they ever get rid of the dual task bars (or panels or what they are called)?

They're panels. There's one task bar (window list) on the bottom panel by default. And you can get rid of them now if you want. I'm reading comments like above mentioning how Linux Mint's look is aesthetically pleasing. Really? It's almost all GNOME. Why discuss a whole change of distro to get a different theme/look? Just change the theme.

It's not even like you're downloading third party apps or doing registry tweaks/resource hacks on Windows 10 years ago. Context menu→"Delete this panel". It's less of a hassle than managing your desktop icons. It's just like making sure Firefox's "Always show the tab bar" preference is set to the value you want it to be.

More broadly, it seems like any level of hullaballoo about Ubuntu's default theme is too much. Who actually sticks with the default theme?

Re: Ubuntu 10.04 Appearance Changes vs Ubuntu 9.10

#34
Yeah well the more important thing seems to be that they changed gnome-over-compiz setting to gnome 3.0 w/ gnome-shell, which means the compositing window manager is now part of the gnome. While some ideas in gnome-shell are quite cool (though obtainable in gnome 2.x as 3rd party stuff like gnome-do project), the stability on some GPU hw/firmware/driver configurations may be sucky.

And if you care about your current gnome2+compiz configuration, it will be most probably messed by upgrading.

Re: Ubuntu 10.04 Appearance Changes vs Ubuntu 9.10

#35
post #14

The nice thing about Ubuntu/Gnome is how easy it is to customize. As long as Emerald Theme Manager still works on 10.04, this release should be great. I also prefer the window buttons on the right and it's good to know that we have a choice. On my MacBook I just have to accept it as is. One thing I would love to see from Ubuntu is clean fonts working out of the box like Windows and Mac. I think that would be game cha…

One thing I would love to see from Ubuntu is clean fonts working out of the box

Sounds like a matter of difference in personal preference. I'm pretty sure that the way fonts look out of the box is intentional, not a deficiency for which devs are actively seeking a solution.

Re: Ubuntu 10.04 Appearance Changes vs Ubuntu 9.10

#36
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a growing process. The point is that it looks better than it did.

I for one like the clean look of my XMonad.

I've heard a lot about XMonad. Could you give a brief rundown of your setup (and what you like about it) and maybe a screenshot or two?

Re: Ubuntu 10.04 Appearance Changes vs Ubuntu 9.10

#37
post #27

Will they ever get rid of the dual task bars (or panels or what they are called)?

They're panels. There's one task bar (window list) on the bottom panel by default. And you can get rid of them now if you want. I'm reading comments like above mentioning how Linux Mint's look is aesthetically pleasing. Really? It's almost all GNOME. Why discuss a whole change of distro to get a different theme/look? Just change the theme. It's not even like you're downloading third party apps or doing registry tweak…

I usually stick with the default theme, except for reconfiguring the panels. Why change the default theme? Last time changing themes excited me was when I had an Amiga 500.

Re: Ubuntu 10.04 Appearance Changes vs Ubuntu 9.10

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone using all 3 OS's day to day (Ubuntu is my primary development OS, I have an iMac next to me, and I switch my laptop to Windows 7 for video games in the evenings), Windows 7 is easily my least favorite OS, it's performance is generally crummy compared to OSX and Ubuntu, and it's UI often aggravating.

See I find the opposite is true for me. I don't have much experience with OS X but between ubuntu and Windows 7 I _much_ prefer Win7. I just can't stand how much screen space is eaten up by useless padding, menu bars, sidebars and panels, not to mention the overly large fonts. I realize that everything is customizable, but I don't have the patience. Windows 7 also seems faster and more responsive to me but responsive…

Yep, I get excited for all the Ubuntu releases but end up back on Windows a couple weeks later.

Re: Ubuntu 10.04 Appearance Changes vs Ubuntu 9.10

#39
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a growing process. The point is that it looks better than it did.

The problem is that Windows will have gone through another design interation by the time Ubuntu has reached the XP/Vista generation look-and-feel.

The gratuitous eye-candy of the XP/Vista look-and-feel was already cliché when it first debuted. Hopefully Ubuntu will leapfrog it. Note that the black "Dust" ubuntu theme seen here was created by a user, not by a designer at Canonical. Compiz is extremely customizable/themeable (unlike Windows or OS X) so it's likely another talented user will go further with the UI design.

Re: Ubuntu 10.04 Appearance Changes vs Ubuntu 9.10

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post #32
post #4

As a huge fan of Linux, I have to say the modern Apple and Microsoft operating systems look significantly better.

I've recently tried Mint Linux, and it's very aesthetically pleasing (screenshot http://i.imgur.com/2OBiH.png ). (Disclaimer: Mac user) Edit: except for the tray icons.

That is almost exactly the Dust theme which is now default in ubuntu, with green icons instead of orange.
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