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GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by gbog »

bnchrch wrote: post #121
mikestew wrote: post #25

I try not to generalize personal experience to a company's stock price. But in GoPro's case I'm picturing a bunch of folks like me who bought one, and then swore to never again buy anything with GoPro's name on it. And those people tell their friends who are considering an "action camera". So you end up with a segment of customers from whom you'll never extract another dime, plus all of the people who might have boug…

I would like to echo your sentiment with my own story. I've owned a GoPro since Christmas of 2014. After less than a year of use the camera would start washing out videos while recording with flares of green and pink then freezing typically after 11 seconds of filming. When I looked on support forums I found that this was a known issue with my GoPro version. However GoPro would not admit the defect and after talking…

I have a Ricoh wg-m1 which is not too bad.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by nzjrs »

laserDinosaur wrote: post #90
mikestew wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My main complaint is that it's difficult to determine camera state. My main use case is having it mounted to a motorcycle where I can reach the buttons but can't safely or easily see the indicator LEDs. Is it on? Is it recording? I have some awesome videos of me sitting on a curb in front of a gas station drinking a Gatorade because I thought it was recording the whole time, and it turns out that when I pulled up and…

>My main use case is having it mounted to a motorcycle where I can reach the buttons but can't safely or easily see the indicator LEDs. Is it on? Is it recording? If you get the GoPro phone app, you can do a live preview of what the camera can see and you can fiddle with most of the settings. I usually use my phone to make sure everything is pointing correctly from my helmets pov and then tuck my phone into my backpa…

Good point. However after using the gopro app on my phone I usually want to throw both the phone and gopro into a fire rather than my backpack.

Truly one of the worst apps I've ever used.

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Post by kbart »

barrkel wrote: post #146
mikestew wrote: post #25

I try not to generalize personal experience to a company's stock price. But in GoPro's case I'm picturing a bunch of folks like me who bought one, and then swore to never again buy anything with GoPro's name on it. And those people tell their friends who are considering an "action camera". So you end up with a segment of customers from whom you'll never extract another dime, plus all of the people who might have boug…

GoPro is a poor shape to use with motorbikes; helmet mounts in particular are ludicrous. Any particular reason you didn't consider Drift? Fairly happy with mine, using it as a helmet-cam.

Thanks for recommendation! I was recently looking for a helm mount camera for my rides, but all I could find were these ridiculous looking GoPro-like mounts.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by kogepathic »

spyspy wrote: post #156

I'm almost positive threads about GoPro are stalked by Xaomi employees. Almost every comment is a plug.

Or Xiaomi products are simply better than GoPro's.

I was in the market for a 4K action camera and ended up buying the Yi 4K because the GoPro model only offered interpolated 4K, while the Yi offers full 30FPS 4K.

I won't say the Yi is perfect. The Xiaomi app stopped connecting to the camera after an update (and hasn't connected successfully since), and early firmwares had issues with 4K recording randomly stopping.

But they've since fixed nearly all the stability issues with subsequent firmware releases.

Overall the camera is loads better than anything that GoPro had on the market at the time, and the camera only cost me $250 with accessories (waterproof case, spare battery), plus $70 to DHL for customs and duties.

I'm not a Xiaomi shill, I'm just very pleased with the product I bought.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by zelos »

lbotos wrote: post #20
giarc wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think GoPro suffers from two problems. 1. Many people buy these camera's that never use them, or use them a few times but realize editing videos takes longer than they hoped it would. So after a while of non use, they sell the camera. 2. They built a good product, one that lasts and is therefore good for the used market. People are comfortable buying a used GoPro because they know it's rugged and well built. So GoP…

Re: Video editing, whoever figures out how to make that _super easy_ is going to make a TON of money.

The TomTom Bandit is an attempt to do that. The editing app is pretty decent, and it uses motion sensors and GPS on the camera to auto-detect interesting highlights in the video. (disclaimer: I do work there, but not on that team)

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by VilleSalonen »

bendauphinee wrote: post #67
sschueller wrote: post #10

Go pro is very good at marketing them selves however the cameras are not much better if not worse than many way cheaper competitors. The drone would be a big hit if Dji didn't just blow the roof of with their incredible mavic pro that came on the market this week. It is by far the best consumer drone available and smaller than the go pro.

I've seen both the Mavic and the Karma, and I have to say they hit different use cases. The GoPro is for when you want a drone that can carry your camera that you can also detach and use with their stabilized handle, which you can then take the GoPro out of completely and use on it's own. The Mavic is for people who want a smaller drone. Both are good tech, and I plan on getting both of them within the next year, but…

The concept of GoPro Karma is intriguing but based on some early reviews it is a horrible drone. For example see this review by iPhonedo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xmqthgCvxk

Based on this video the price, stability, amount of features and just about everything is worse than my old DJI Phantom 3 Standard.

I wished GoPro Karma would be good but based on reviews I'm not impressed and probably end up going with Mavic Pro even though I just bought GoPro Hero 5.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by bambax »

mikestew wrote: post #58
mtw wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't read your account. What's bad about GoPro? Note : I have an action camera, but it's from Garmin

My main complaint is that it's difficult to determine camera state. My main use case is having it mounted to a motorcycle where I can reach the buttons but can't safely or easily see the indicator LEDs. Is it on? Is it recording? I have some awesome videos of me sitting on a curb in front of a gas station drinking a Gatorade because I thought it was recording the whole time, and it turns out that when I pulled up and…

I have a 1st generation Garmin Virb mounted to the front of my motorbike:

Stabilization is (very) poor, and image quality is so-so, but the thing works flawlessly; it's remote-controlled by the Garmin watch via a special connection that never drops, and powered by the bike. I love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvZbWkVKW1c

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by bambax »

niftich wrote: post #2

They have a drone? Oh, they do, but it doesn't ship until the end of November. The Engadget review (dated today) [1] presents a good look at the device and how it compares to the competition -- different trade-offs. Nicer if you're in the GoPro ecosystem, but the competition is a better flyer. So perhaps the market for rugged cameras is fairly saturated by their own products, and the aerial market has partially saile…

The DJI Mavic is sooo much better -- although, apparently, DJI is also experiencing major shipping delays.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by bambax »

lbotos wrote: post #20
giarc wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think GoPro suffers from two problems. 1. Many people buy these camera's that never use them, or use them a few times but realize editing videos takes longer than they hoped it would. So after a while of non use, they sell the camera. 2. They built a good product, one that lasts and is therefore good for the used market. People are comfortable buying a used GoPro because they know it's rugged and well built. So GoP…

Re: Video editing, whoever figures out how to make that _super easy_ is going to make a TON of money.

Can't find the link right now but I think Microsoft is working on auto-cut software that automatically detects interesting moments in a video and stitches them together?
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